| Author | Message | ||
     Bads1 |
Would anybody here put citgo oil in there bike????? | ||
| Spiderman |
If it were a dire emergency and the nearest place that sold cycle oil wasn't within a range of 100+ miles. AND I had no one with me and I could change and flush my oil as sooooon as was able to get my hand on some cycle oil.... Ummmm Probally not  | ||
| Crusty |
What's so bad about Citgo? I don't use it, myself, but is there a reason for singling Citgo out? | ||
| Mikej |
started off sounding like a political rant lead-in.?. | ||
| Spiderman |
I should retract that statement till I find out if BadS1 is talking about that 0.99 cent oil they have for sale in there gas stations or if they are making a V-twin lube. | ||
| Mikej |
Don't matter in extreme cases, if you're riding at 3am in the middle of nowhere and your bike has had a high-vent day and you check the oil as you refill your gas and you find you are a quart or more low and you don't have any "good" stuff with you and if it's another couple of hours to your destination and you're too far away to call for a friendly oil delivery from a like-minded soul, you use what's available. I never did figure out why some days showed more oil loss than other days with similar riding and conditions and mileage. Any oil is usually better than no oil. YMMV. | ||
| Joey |
How about Wesson? | ||
| Mikej |
I'm sure it's been tried, as has draining some oil from a tractor sitting out in a field, not that I would ever do such a thing.  | ||
| Sarodude |
Once in a previous life I tried to run a Cox .049 engine on rubbing alcohol and corn oil. Hard to keep 'em mixed. Kinda worked. Smelled interesting too. Shoulda tried olive oil though... -Saro | ||
| Bads1 |
Ok ok .... The response I thought I would get was I wouldn't put anything that was Citgo in my scoot.I know my bike doesn't care to much for there gas, its much better with Mobil, Shell or Phillips 66.Now ...I think alot of us do use Mobil 1 synthetic for v-twins,heres something interesting that I learned that Citgo is the maker of Harley Davidsons new synthetic oil.I was kind of surprised.I've drained there oil out of a car before that was driven less then 3000 miles and the stuff looked like black coffee in a motor that only had 25,000 miles or so on it. | ||
| Spiderman |
LOL I won't run synthetic so I guess I am saved.  | ||
| Daves |
how'd you find out they make HD oil? Ride to the Edge! Dave HD/Buell Cycle Center Buell sales Mgr Waterloo BRAG club Director BattleMaster Waterloo Ia 1-800-342-7539 ext 14 319-235-6505 ext 14 dave@iowaharley.com rdcapt@hotmail.com | ||
| Kevyn |
If I remember reading my owner/operator manual...calls for diesel grade motor oil. Just throw in the proper weight 'lubricant' and change it when you get home. I also remember something about CITGO using NA petroleum products as opposed to imported... | ||
| Spike |
I could be mistaken, but I was under the impression that Citgo was the manufacturer for the standard HD360 motor oil. I thought I had seen a bulletin about a slight change in the color of the HD360. If I recall correctly the bulletin said that the manufacturer had changed to Citgo, causing a slight change in the oil's color. Of course, I could be way off base on all of this. I'll see if I can come up with the bulletin. Mike L. '99 Cyclone '94 Turbo Miata | ||
| Crusty |
Everybody acts as if Harley oil is bad stuff. I had an'88 FLHS that had 125,000 miles with no oil related problems. My '78 FXE had 72,000 miles. My '86 XLH1100 had 30,000 miles. All worked fine using H-D oil exclusively. I put 60,000 miles on my '98 S3-T in two years and had no motor problems (other than rocker box leaks). I did use synthetic for a few thousand miles. The secret is Frequent oil changes. If you change your oil every 2,000 miles your engine will be happy, and will have a long life. | ||
| Bads1 |
Dave I was at primary officer training when the question was asked "who makes the synthetic oil for Harley Davidson and they replied Citgo.It kinda surprised me I guess of all companies, not that they are a bad company or anything. | ||
| Joey |
Who said HD oil is bad? Nothing wrong with HD oil, until you get to the cashier. Then you see what's wrong with HD oil. Yikes! | ||
| Daves |
BadS1, I was just wondering, they usually keep stuff like that a secret. How'd officer training go? Ride to the Edge! Dave HD/Buell Cycle Center Buell sales Mgr Waterloo BRAG club Director BattleMaster Waterloo Ia 1-800-342-7539 ext 14 319-235-6505 ext 14 dave@iowaharley.com rdcapt@hotmail.com | ||
| Newfie_Buell |
Yeah, How did the officer training go? I am thinking about it in May but I would have to fly to Toronto to attend and if its no good then I won't be. | ||
| Bads1 |
Daves they didn't hesitate at all to tell us who made it,I found that quite interesting myself.As far as the primary officer training is concerned it was awesome and I would have to say I would recommend it to all. | ||
| Bads1 |
Citgo oil and gas is out of Yugoslavia and they are having problems with labor workers and cannot evidently get enough fuel out to keep up with demand of there stations getting there gas.I wonder how that could effect HD from getting there new synthetics in the future if Citgo is starting to have problems with supplying there own stations. | ||
| Court |
Are not all oils formulated to confrom to some API standards? Don't get me wrong, I've changed the Mobil 1 in the truck every 2,000 for the last 108,000 miles but my bet is that if I'd changed abouut any oil and filter regularly that it'd make little difference. Price alone is not, in my mind, always an indicator of nominal quality. When I used to shoot non-precision ADF instrument approaches in an airplane I had the Rolex on my wrist and the $6 Seiko I'd velcroed to the yoke. Guess which one I timed the approach with? Court | ||
| Mikej |
Went to the citgo.com web site and did a search on Harley and got zero hits. What did I expect. | ||
| Bads1 |
Yes your most definately right Court but why is that when you drain some oils out they either look like black coffee or come out like sludge,even out of a well maintained engine. | ||
| Mikej |
Detergents, additives, local conditions. Just guessing. | ||
| Newfie_Buell |
I would also add water from condensation - maybe? I once got caught in a real heavy rainstorm - imagine bad weather in Newfoundland - and about a day later I changed the oil and the primary fluid. The primary fluid was exactly like foamy, milky color and a little sludge. I guess the water entered the clutch cable where the adjustment is on it. I have since been using rubber marine tape thats used on radio masts on marine vessels and absolutely no problems with moisture getting in. I guess the water caused the primary fluid to do that. Also, All I have been using is the HD 20W50 and have had no problems with it, change it every 5000km and most of the time its not even black. | ||
| Spiderman |
Newfie, It also gets in through your crank vent hose. It is the hose comming out of the back of the primary right next to the starter. | ||
| Wuerger190 |
Bads1- If it looks like black coffee then its doing its job. Oil is designed to hold contaminates in suspension so they may be caught by the filter and / or drained during the oil change. If its really black, then perhaps worn piston rings could be the cause. And yes you can mix synthetics with regular oil. Read the back of a container of Mobil 1. In a pinch ANY automotive / motorcycle motor oil regardless of brand, or viscosity is better than NO oil. | ||
| Blake |
From the Citgo web site... Don't know where you got that it was a Yugloslavian company. | ||
| Bads1 |
Sorry Blake my mistake I got the place of origin wrong.But none the less they are having labor problems. | ||
| Blake |
The Venezualan oil industry is on strike. | ||
| Bads1 |
You betcha Blake they have citgo stations here in Wisconsin out of gas and can't get it.Bad timing for the man that own PDV America, Inc. because are gas prices are expected to sour to $2.00 a gallon by this weekend.My brother owns a Mobil and a SinClair station here in Racine Wisconsin and he's telling me you haven't seen nothing yet. | ||
| Bomber |
funny how gas prices fluctuate in response to almost anything, ain't it? | ||
| Donsieg |
HD's VP said that Citgo makes the new Syn3 oil to Harley's rigorously tested spec's. He said that it is the only synthetic tested and approved by HD. He also said that didn't mean others aren't as good - just not tested. Aside from the obvious benefit of one oil for all applications (think touring and only having to carry one quart), he said the engines tested ran cooler. The price is certainly higher, but I see no other downside. I'm gonna use the stuff. | ||
| Charlieboy6649 |
As far as the question of oil coming out looking like black coffee, I, in my non-educated on the subject opinion, say it's a good thing. Maybe that particular oil's detergents and additives are WORKING? And the oil you drain clear every 2-3k isn't worth a crap? Just throwing that out there. Then again, I could be wrong. Somebody say I'm right, I like to be right... |
