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99buellx1
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just got the XB rocker covers on my X1. I had them powder coated black, I think they look pretty nice. Can't wait to have it back and running again. (and just in time for the 20th)








Craig
Buell Cycle Center
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José_quiñones
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very Nice!
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Tripper
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DETAILS man. How much? Any problems? Can you post your BOM?

Tx, DaveT
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Bluzm2
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tripper,
The whole deal is less than $75 not including the powder coating.
I did my M2 with Blast RB covers and had to re drill the PCV valve hole for the rear.
No need with the XB covers. Just bolt them on.
The left front corner needs a little relief with a file.
Just pull the breather bolts and replace them with a solid bolt of your choice. I used plain old SS hardware store bolts.

I don't have part numbers but the parts are:
Front cover, rear cover, 2 grommets, 2 PCV valves.
Plumb them with your favorite hose. I ran from the front, to a T for the rear, then out the back of the bike.
I don't have a filter on mine. No need so far (4000+ miles).

Beats dinking around with a catch can...

Brad
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Doncasto
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

7605-00YB Rocker cover, front head $39
17642-02A Rocker cover, rear head $39
17606-00YA Grommet, Viton, Black $2.95 each (need 2)
17607-00Y PCV Valve, $6.90 each (need 2)
868A Hex Socket Button Head Screw, $4.75 each (need 2)

$113.00

I just ordered the parts for my '98 S3T. My days of twisting off the breather bolts may at last be behind me.

Don
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Firemanjim
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hell,Don,if you didn't wrench like Magilla Gorilla the bolts would be fine.(I know cuz I break them the same way.)
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Doncasto
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ya mean I may have to give up using my three foot breaker bar? I am not sure I can continue without it, my wrenching days may be over. Sniff! SOB! WHAAAAAAH!
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Bluzm2
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the part numbers Don, I'm ordering another set for my S2.

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José_quiñones
Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's a whole writeup with pictures HERE

Been there for a while.....
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99buellx1
Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My covers did not need any clearancing, bolt them on, good to go. Maybee thats just the difference between the frame on an X1 and M2/S3?

I'll post again with it all up and running.

Craig
Buell Cycle Center
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Snowdave
Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had to do some minor grinding to fit the covers on my 2000 M2....front only. Not a big deal, but I couldn't find any way around it.

Dave
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Bart02m2
Posted on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd like to put these on my M2. Do the XB valve cover parts come with gaskets or do I need to order them separately?
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José_quiñones
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used the existing gaskets, they were in good shape. No leaks so far.

It would not hurt to get new ones.
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Devdawg
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 05:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone who put on a set of XB rocker box covers experienced an increase of oil puking through the breather hose?

I have a '99 M2 and just put a set of XB covers on. The breather line was routed down behind the battery right above the swing arm and rear fender with a gauze filter on the end, it seemed like a good location, so I left it in place.

The problem I'm having now is I've gone from no oil puking..at all...to pretty much coating the rear fender and a good amount of the swing arm. I've only ridden it four times...about 20 mi each trip, back and forth to work twice...since the upgrade and have had a pretty good amount (not sure how much yet...4-5 ounces at least) of oil puke out each time.

At first I thought I may had over filled to oil tank and now the excess was just being vented, but there's noway I put that much extra in the tank. Checked the oil level today when I got home and sure enough it was well below the bottom of the dipstick.

There's just over 10,000 miles and there was nothing done other than the box covers, so I can't see that much blow by all of a sudden.

I have a long weekend coming up and plan on doing a little investigating and experimenting to see if I can figure it out.

Anyone have any ideas?
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José_quiñones
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check for kinks in the lines, or maybe the PCV valve or the grommet got blown off the top of the rocker box cover.

Other than that I don't know what it could be.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and it would not hurt to make sure it is the rocker vent and not the tranny vent... just to be sure you are not chasing down the wrong thing. Tranny leaks (from a bad seal) are easy to fix, and can start all at once.
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Fuscat
Posted on Saturday, June 05, 2004 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just noticed this problem with mine as well.. Had the rear section of my S1 off the last couple days for an electrical issue. My breather hose was routed up and around the tail. Cleaned off the body work and decided to try to re-route the hose. I had it just hanging down while I was forming a plan and notice quite a bit of draining. Interestingly enough the sludge was grey and white and milky. I am going to look into a catch can of some sort as I do not want this draining all down the swing arm and possibly the tire.

What did you find out Dev? Anything to add?
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Devdawg
Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fuscat,
Sorry for the delay...hope this still helps.

As a test to make sure the oil was coming from the breather vents, I ran a hose from the XB covers down along the bottom left side of the swing arm. Zip tied it to the adjuster nut and had it pointing down about ½ inch below the rear axle nut to keep it off the rear wheel, rotor and isolate to make no mistake where the oils was coming from, if there was any drainage. I ran that for a few months...(actual driving time maybe a couple of weeks, due to deployments and other travel)

I was getting the same milky white/grey drainage you were talking about daily and was still getting oil at times as well.

After more digging I noticed the tranny vent was disconnected (not sure if it was connected to the breather line...looked like it might have been...or if the previous owner had it just hanging there near the battery. Either way it wasn't the tranny that was leaking), and I had two front XB covers (exhaust vent was to the rear on both). I didn't think this would cause much trouble but just to make sure I replaced the rear cover with one that had the vent towards the front and connected the tranny vent to the breather line running to the filter under the oil tank in front of the rear hugger (original venting location). I also added a Hayden Krank Vent Plus, just because I had one.

I've been running that setup now for a couple of weeks, since getting back from Thailand with no drainage at all. I did put a short upswing in the hose just before the filter and I'm considering putting another T-connector at the low spot to add a drainage point just to make sure. (Saw a cool setup with a clear hose somewhere on the BadWeb that I'll be using)

I'm not sure which of the changes solved the puking...didn't have the time to incorporate one at time, but I'm thinking the vent on rear cover being a little higher and a little further from the flapper valve allowed more oil to separate from the mist before exiting through the hose.

I'll pull the filter off the hose and check to see if any oil has collected at the low spot this weekend but all indications so far say no.
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M2me
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had two front XB covers (exhaust vent was to the rear on both)

I think that was your problem. Both PCV valves should be in the center or "high" part of the motor. I think gravity is the reason for it. Like this picture from DC BRAG:



I'm putting the XB covers on my M2 today!
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Tripp
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hey john how ya makein out, i'm a little more than half way thru my project, i have a 99m2. i did'nt have to lower my engine to do it, i did have to cut down an allen key. i did'nt remove the tiebars either and it was a little difficult to get the front one in with all the wires and all and holy smokes those covers are sharp on the edges, i ended up taking a dremel to the edges, i had to put a small depression in the front left corner of the front cover to clear the motor mount as well. i ended up painting my covers black like craig that started this thread but went to no great expense to do it i just bought a can of semigloss black auto engine paint, i'll post pics when i'm done. for those interested, this has been a pretty easy job so far. i have taken it a little at a time, the first time i worked on it i took off the gas tank and seat (maybe 10 min.), the next time i cut the allen key down and removed the rear cover (15 min) a day or two later i tackled the front cover, that was a pain in the , the left front bolt is a bit of a project in itself (again this is probably because i did'nt drop the motor) it took about 50 1/16th turns with the little allen key to get that jerky out (1/2hr-40min). tonight i ground down the front left corner of the front cover, took the edges off the covers so as not to cut anything up (wires and hoses), then painted them bad larrys, i ran back and forth to the house in between coats to watch friday the 13th hehe, but tonights portion (35 min). i hope the reassemly goes smoothly, if so it will have been less than three hours labor for the job and i'm a regular circus act in the garage, a handy fella could probably get it done in less than two hours! i still have to pick up a few things to complete the job but total cost will be less than $120 or so. i am excited to see the finished product i really like the blacked out part look, i think i'll paint my forks black next! i hope to finish up tomorrow as i have more things i want to do (install new front exhaust mount) the list is long.
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Tripp
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

alright, another 15 min last nite to install new covers, will proby rap it up tonite!
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Tripp
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

rkbx1
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rkbx3
rkbx4
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still need to wrap it up it's rained 6 weekends in a row here, been riding the wifes vulcan since a recent operation. will update upon completion!
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tripp, looks real nice, I painted my XB covers in crinkle black last week in preparation of this same project. (Some day I'll black out the whole engine, swing arm block, and swing arm with that crinkle stuff...)

Jose, thanks for the link, that's a nice write up and with the photos it answered pretty much all the questions I had.

Anyone have a close up of that relieved corner? I want to grind it and paint over that before I do the install.

Thanks,

-Mike

(Message edited by littlebuggles on May 23, 2005)
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Tripp
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i just slipped the front cover on as far as it would go and took a sharpie marker and marked either side of the motor mount on the cover and i only had to take it down a millimeter or two maybe. since you already painted it you could probably use a yellow grease pencil. thanks for the compliment.
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Tripp
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

all right so i finally finished last week some time, it took me an additional 20 min. to complete(install pcv valves and route hoses), will post more pics of completed job. i did the same thing with the hoses as that nice fella from dc brag. over all the job was relatively easy and i feel was well worth the time involved, i gave old lucretia an oil change yesterday with 2 1/2 qts of golden mobil 1 and a basic black stock hd filter. i also completed the header mount upgrade and will report my efforts in the appropriate kv section. tonite hopefully i'll have time to install my new exhaust!
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tripp,

Did you have clearance issues with the PCV valves and tank? I'm doing the conversion next week on my M2 - mainly just to visually unclutter the right side of the bike.
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Tripp
Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no clearance issues for pcv valves.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 04:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alright, here's what I've got... XB covers done in crinkle black. Routed pcv's to a "T" stolen from my race intake and then hose out the back to a filter, just in case there is any blow-by left.

I didn't have to modify the front cover to install it but it will be right up against the motor mount so I'll relieve the cover to avoid any strain on the mount, I don't want to give it any excuse to break.

Looks clean, the pcv valve on the front cover seems close to moving parts(inside the cover). I'm a little worried about that, any one had issues there or did I do it right and am worrying over nuthin?

breather routing
clearance with motor mount

(Message edited by road_thing on July 04, 2005)
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 04:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Carb mounting hardware is fugly, think I may paint it black, depends on how soon I ge my body work and front mount tie bar.

Sorry for the poor quality pics, wanted them to post so I cut the compression by half.

complete cover swap side view
fugly carb hardware

(Message edited by road_thing on July 04, 2005)
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LB: I edited your posts to put the pix on top of each other rather than side-by-side. Just hit "enter" after the upload gobbldegook and you can do the same.

rt
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