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Cowtown
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Iíve posted this as it was sent to me. They neglected to mention the bike was found inside the car. Has anyone seen this or know if the accident is true? Iím always reluctant to believe events I see on the Internet.


The Honda rider was traveling at such a "very high speed", his reaction time was not sufficient enough to avoid this accident. Swedish Police estimate a speed of ~250 KM/h (155mph) before the bike hit the slow moving car side-on at an intersection. At that speed, they predicted that the rider's reaction time (once the vehicle came into view) wasn't sufficient enough for him to even apply the brakes.
The car had two passengers and the bike rider was found INSIDE the car with them. The Volkswagen actually flipped over from the force of impact and landed 10 feet from where the collision took place.
All three involved (two in car and rider) were killed instantly. This graphic demonstration was placed at the Stockholm Motorcycle Fair by the Swedish Police and Road Safety Department.
The sign above the display also noted that the rider had only recently obtained his license.
At 250 KM (155 mph) the operator is traveling at 227 feet per second. With normal reaction time to SEE-DECIDE-REACT of 1.6 seconds the above operator would have traveled over 363 feet while making a decision on what actions to take. In this incident the Swedish police indicate that no actions were taken.




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Fullpower
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

THAT IS SOME SERIOUS CARNAGE, thanks for sharing.
My comment at this point is that if your reaction time is 1.6 seconds, then you should NOT be riding a motorcycle.
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Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brake Perception-Reaction (B-P-R) time for motorcyclists is far more often than not better than 1.6 seconds. (B-P-R time is the total from the first perception of a hazard, to making a decision, to actually applying the brake.) In the accident reconstruction community, 1.5 seconds brake perception-reaction time is typically used for car drivers. This is actually a very conservative number, as the best civil engineering studies for highway design purposes indicate that the 50th percentile perception-reaction for car drivers is about 1.1 seconds. 1.5 seconds is about 85th percentile, that is, 5 out of 6 people do it that quickly or faster.

Once a hazard is perceived and a decision made, lab tests indicate that the act of applying motorcycle brakes is quicker than applying automotive brakes (which makes sense -- think of the three step lift-shift-and-apply movement you have to make to go from a car's throttle to the brake). Indeed, if you cover the front brake lever with a couple of fingers when you ride, the brake application time is about 0.4 to 0.5 seconds less than when in a car, unless you're a New York cabbie and left-foot brake.

All-in-all, most motorcyclists probably perceive and react to simple hazards in 1 second or less.
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Spike
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

. . . so I guess we know which Anonymous this is ; )
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Packnrat
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i may be a new-be here, but this photo is fake. i have seen at least four or five such types of photos, and story's of how it happened.
different cars and bikes. but the same message...

.....slow down.
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/seemotorcycl e.asp
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Court
Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

True . . . with "speed embellishment" and a few skewed facts (the talking on the cellphone) . . . perfect for a motorcycle story!
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Tazmania720
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 02:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Saw something like this here on Oahu. Except it was a full size Nissan 4 door car, and it too had flipped over. Guys was going stupid fast on a GSXR1000 or a similar super bike. Crazy!!!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Anony, neat information!
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Court
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Thanks Anony, neat information!

Agreed.

Informed facts, on the internet, are like sunshine on a summer day.

Interesting to learn something.

Thank you.
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