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Dagwood
Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I am here to report that I finally found the wear bars on my scorps. It took me 7985 miles worth of good riding, but I found them. The front would have gone even further but I picked up a nail in it, so I figured I would give another brand a shot and replaced them both.

Many of the buellers I ride with swear by the cornering capabilities of the Michelin Pilot Powers, so I will be putting them to the test.

For anyone considering the Pirellis, they are a great tire and will last a long time. They held as good in the rain as they did when dry and never slipped even when pushing them to the edge.

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Dfbutler
Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Metzlers are a good pick. Got over 9K miles on rear and front is still going.
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Fullpower
Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just put the scorpion sync on front of XB friday. running 36 psi, and went for a spirited romp in extremely heavy rain, detoured through a muddy very wet gravel section, around 7 miles of serious mucking about, i was leading a triumph tiger through the gnarled twisted muddy track, running about 45 miles per hour. no traction issues, just a very dirty bike.damn good tire, plan to put the rear SYNC on as soon as i wear out the Z6.
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just getting my Syncs broken in.

At first I had them set to stock pressure, but they were beating me to death compared to the stock D207's(no susp. adjustments, yet). So I dropped them down to 34F, 36R and it seems a little better. I know a tire change may require some slight susp. adjustments, but I already have it set on the "soft" side due to the poor road conditions around here.

Don't get me wrong, I love the tires so far. Headshake is gone, uneasy/squeamish feeling even during mild cornering is gone, standing up under braking is a memory too!

They just seem to ride rougher than they should.

Any thoughts on this are appreciated.

tank
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Metalstorm
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have nothing to add but I find it interesting cause in the Lightning manual it says the CityX with Scorps should be 34f, 36r where as the 12S & Scg models with Dunlops are 36f, 38r.
I thought it was due to the extra 10 lbs of the 12 but now I wonder.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tank_bueller, I just read your profile & I see you have a 9. There goes my theory.

You want to run them at 34f, 36r on a 9. (according to the manual)

(Message edited by metalstorm on November 30, 2005)
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Metalstorm
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just out of curiosity, what is the stock pressure for your 9 with the Dunlops?
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Xring
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

36f,38r if I recall correctly. I have to look it up every time. 2004 XB9S

I may try reducing the pressure in the Scorps just for fun (I run them at 36/38). I mounted them myself and they are considerably stiffer than the stock Dunlops. Maybe ride compliance will be better with a little less pressure.

Bill
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, stock Dunlops = 36/38 for 9 and 12.

I did not know the stock cityX pressure = 34/36, just a good guess I suppose.

Food for thought....
The scorps are waaay heavier than the bald stockers(dunlops) = mucho added sprung weight = rough ride. Maybe they will "loosen up" after a thousand miles or so.

As I said above, the reduced pressure makes a good bit of difference, but still "stiff" feeling. I may try dropping a little more just to see what happens(maybe 32/34), but if it gets "wallowy" then I'd rather deal with a bumpy ride.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys. I think I'm gonna drop mine down to 34/36 as well & see what happens. : )
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Metalstorm
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I rode yesturday with the tire pressure dropped down to 34 front & 36 rear & I can say it is better. On the bumpy roads I ride I can still feel the bumps but the edge was definitely taken off. Good improvement. I didn't really feel a difference in handling for better or worse so I guess that's a good thing too.
I think I'll stick with 34/36 on the Scorps.
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Xring
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll try it when riding weather comes back to WV.

Have fun,
Bill
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Typeone
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Food for thought.... The scorps are waaay heavier than the bald stockers(dunlops) = mucho added sprung weight = rough ride

how much heavier are we talking here? i was just about to purchase a set of Scorp Syncs but i don't want a heavy tire if thats the case. got some numbers to back that up? curious about the difference.

thnx.

EDIT: I'm digging around the BadWeb... found a little info so far...

"Thought long and hard about the new Conti RoadAttack (sticky sport tourers, which Pirelli markets the SYNC as BTW), until I found the weight figures: 10F, 14R. A bit more than the OE Dunlops... Then on a whim I pulled the specs for the SYNCs: 8.9F,12.25R"

and some more info...

Here are the weights of the Dunlops for the XB:

Heavy D207 front 10.44 lbs
Light D207 front 8.93 lbs

Heavy D207 rear 14.91 lbs
Light D207 rear 11.71 lbs

seems the comment above about the Scorps being heavy isn't true. chime in if this isn't the case but here's a good thread where i clipped the above from...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/17736.html

(Message edited by typeone on March 10, 2006)
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe that line could have been more clear.

I don't have any actual weight info, I was just going off of my own experience.

Having said that, let me clarify.......

I am sure that the brand new Syncs with 1/4 inch+ tread depth(rear) are heavier than the "BALD" D207's I had before. Having such a low unsprung weight to begin with, it doesn't take much added weight to be very noticeable.

I don't know what kind of riding you do, but the Syncs work very well for me. The back roads around here pretty much suck(broken pavement, occasional gravel/dirt, etc), and the farther "back road" I go, the worse they get. I love these tires, so far. I plan to use them for a riding/racing school sometime soon and believe they will be fine for a "first time tracker" like myself.

All of the CityX'ers here seem to like them just fine.

Gotta' go ride,
later!
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Typeone
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for the response, Tank.

looking through the numbers (even if they're kinda old) I'm sold on the Scorps for this season. busted pavement, work zones, etc. all around here too, sounds like a great tire for the nasty stuff as well as the twisty stuff. perfect.
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Biker_bob
Posted on Monday, May 22, 2006 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm trying to gauge the wear on my Syncs. Does anyone know how much tread in 32's or mm is on a new stock Sync tire? Thanks.
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Biker_bob
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I measured a new rear at the dealer, just under 8/32's
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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Syncs came off a couple months ago. They had between 5500 and 6000 miles, mainly commuting in town and one track school. They were very confidence inspiring tires. So much so that I had one lowside and one highside on 'em, one a result of too much cornering speed/lean angle (drove it right into the ground), and the other too much throttle (of course) on the exit of a hard right. After a few thousand miles they starting drifting quite predictably, giving me the bravado of a MotoGP star (albeit without the talent!). At a track school the sliding around really got old, especially at the rear end. One rider even made fun of my blued to the edges tires. After the track school the tires went from fun to scary...with even slow parking lot cornering causing unexpected slides. The front tire eventually cracked completely around both sides. At this point braking stability was so bad I thought my steering head was loose! Despite this, these were the first set of tires where I killed both the front and rear at the same time, wearing both to the wear markers all the way around.
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