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Tank_bueller
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I plan to remove the wheels and take them to a dealer/shop to have the tires changed.

Do I need to remove the rear pulley and the brake rotors from the wheels, or can they do it with them still attached?
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Buellistic
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tank_bueller:

STATEMENT: "ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS THINGS IN
THE WORLD IS A HARLEY-DAVIDSON TECHNICIAN WORKING ON A BUELL"

That means replacing tires also !!!

Had this happen to me, took the front wheel in
for a new tire, put on as soon as "i" got home
and guess what THEY bent my ROTOR ... The DEALER
employees position was "i" brought it in BENT !!!
The DEALER(owner) after a long chat made it right ...

"SO", now when "i" get a new tire/tires the wheels are CLEAN(rotors/sprocket) ...
There postition now is they can not balance the
wheels with out the rotors/sprockets which is
"BUELLschitte" ... Have not had any trouble with
tire balance !!!

A friend had a tire put on his XB with the GOLD
RIMS and the TECHNICAN cleaned part of his wheel
with BRAKE FLUID ... Needless to say after the war he got a new rim !!!

In BUELLing
LaFayette
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Bandm
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2005 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No reason to remove rotors or pulley to change tires.
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2005 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the replies!!

The manual doesn't say to take the stuff off.

I'm more worried about having an experience similar to what Buellistic described above.

Anyone have experience using a private/speed shop to perform work like this? There's a few around here, and I'm thinking they should be much better than a dealer due to the "small business" mentality. They can't afford to buy a new wheel every time a "tech" goes and screws something up.
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Sleeper_777
Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've heard from Daves that the wheel bearings can remain in the hub also. Anyone have any experience with it?
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Dfbutler
Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 01:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I need tires, I take my bike to a motorcycle tire place. I can watch them work, they know how to change a tire including mounting a balancing with the rotor and sprocket on. Most Harley dealers sell bikes, accessories, and clothes and have service department - which does not mean they actually know how to fix them.
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Sleeper_777
Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Daves on the advise, no need to remove wheel bearings from wheel hub when changing the tire. You saved me alot of time and sweat.
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Sleeper_777
Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Advice that is.
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Fullpower
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

get a 6 inch C-clamp, and a couple small tire irons, a valve core removal tool, a clean rag, and a some hot soapy water, and swap yer own rubber. it is not rocket science. not so different from a schwinn sting-ray.
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, Finally got my rubber swapped out. Been busy working or doing whatever happened to come up.

Took the wheels to a place about a half mile from the Chrome & Leather Outlet (Harley dealer) where I bought the bike.

I asked if the pulley and rotors were a problem and get this....he says:
"Nope, they are fine. Actually, you will get a better overall balance with them on the wheel."

I was FLOORED!!!!!(not about the pulley and rotors, but that I found somebody THAT ACTUALLY KNEW WHAT THE HELL THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT!!!)

When I picked them up, he told me I should have waited, it only took 20min and they were done.

Kind of pricey at $24 per wheel, but the knowledge and service is worth it in my opinion. But it's not bad for a small shop which also happens to be a Ducati/Aprilla dealer.......
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......yes, you read that right. I took my Buell wheels to a Ducati dealer. They were happy to hook me up, and I am a happy customer
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Clutchless
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That was a very smooth move Tank_Bueller.

And Fullpower is right about swapping your own rubber, it's not rocket science but you can make it an art.

Aftermarket shops arent too bad for changing wheels (cheap, fast, usually local). But take stock for which shop you are taking it to. If they make rat bikes dont go there, but in your case...if they service Ducs...they must have decent tire change equipment. Surprisingly I find that chopper shops (big and small) have a pretty nice tire vise, and balancer cause of those fat tires they love.

but not to ramble...dont go to a Harley shop to change those rubbers unless its got a Buell sign attached somewhere.

They "should" be your best bet...

But Ducati works for me too



oh I forgot...

Leave your pulley and rotor on so they can balance as a whole, if they are doing their job right they will check the rim+pulley+rotor while on the balancer for anything that isnt true.

(Message edited by clutchless on October 17, 2007)
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Amen Brutha..

Last time I took stuff to my spot, they took before and after pictures, because my wheels had two "scratches" when I dropped them off.

They mounted the tire on the "third wheel"(rear) backwards, but changed it immediately, and I was gone in 20min.

Red Line in Yorktown VA. Nice work!
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