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Jaredkuper
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2005 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

my killswitch is killing the bike weather the stand is up or down. What do I need to short to bypass the killswitch??
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Patrickh
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2005 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cut it off and twist the wires together, problem solved
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Patrickh
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2005 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sorry, i was reading "sidestand switch" instead of kill switch
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Dwolk
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2005 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My right mirror became loose (I'm preparing to get some nice bar-end glass) while riding the other day (04 XB12s) and tried to turn/tighten it a little so I wouldn't have to stop. Turned it a bit and the engine died. Only thing I can think of is a short...is this kind of shorting out a more common experience than it should be?
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Madduck
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2005 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't know xb's well, older Harleys wouldn't run if the switch gear on the right handlebar got loose. There is a small plunger switch in the switch gear. You might loosen yours up and look at it closely. Simple fix is to move switch gear as far to the right as possible and tighten.

Switch is on the rt. flat side next to handgrip.
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Jaredkuper
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, I meant sidestand switch. I was able to rig it with one of those spade type crimp connectors. They can be seen here:
http://www.kampenwagen.co.uk/Crimping.htm
I used the female one, fit perfect over the two wires inside the connection to the sidestand switch. Great for the ride home, but I am afraid it could fall off someday so I'll probably solder it together tomorrow.

Anyone else make that a permanent fix? I heard that the newer models don't even have that switch?
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Patrickh
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine was giving me trouble so I cut it off, twisted the wires together and wrapped it up tight with friction tape. That was 2 years ago.
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Tq_freak
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i have an 05 lightning and it doesnt have the side stand switch, buell must have realised that they arent that nessicary
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Mellow_yellow
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As of this posting,my sidestand switch is working fine,but I just picked up yet more valuable information on these bikes,and the solutions of various "issues".I continue to learn and am grateful.This site is SO GREAT!!
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what bikes are you guys talking about? My XB12R has no switch whatsoever on the sidestand.
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Tq_freak
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what year is your 12R? i beleave 2002 and 2003 had a sidestand switch and 2004 and up doesnt
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Jaredkuper
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Switch Info:
On the bike that have them (mine is an 03) there is a circular piece of black plastic about 1.25" in diameter held on by a single 8mm bolt where the kickstand meets the bike. There will be two wires wrapped in black heat shrink and tape coming from this circle. The heat shrink turns to flexible aluminum tubing when it nears the muffler. This is the sidestand switch. When the sidestand is down, it will kill the bike if the clutch is let out while in gear.

For future reference:
To test the sidestand switch: unplug the wiring harness. Connect an ohm-meter or continuity meter to the wires. When the sidestand is down, the two wires should not be connected (> 100k Ohms). When the sidestand is up, the wires should be shorted together (0 Ohms).

To repair:
If your switch is to blame, simply short the wires together somehow. The first way I described with the crimp spade connection worked pretty well.
The switch is of a design such that if broken its most likely not worth trying to fix. The replacement part is around $21.
I decided to cut the connector off of the switch, solder the two wires together, and plug the connector back into the bike. This will keep the wires permanently shorted, but still allow me to easily replace the switch if needed in the future.
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Tq_freak
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

good idea on the repair, I also like being able to return to stock if I feel it the need to in the future....but the odds I ever will, slim to none
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Tintin74
Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, that community surely helps a lot.
I got a used XB9R 05 model and thought the previous owner might have shorted the switch.

Did anybody try to ADD that switch to a later model? (I could be the first if it's only $21 but if there is no wiring at all now around the sidestand or if I need specific tools to secure the connections and prepare the wires after cutting them to add the switch it might end up pretty costly...)

I've read description of sidestands getting loose plus the effects on the motorcycle crash that followed and I guess my almost weekly scratching of the sidestand in the first left turn of the day doesn't do any good to the thing...
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