| Author | Message | ||
     Xgecko |
it's more the principle of the matter...I once took a 40' flight from a blast of 400hertz...that I will never forget. Messing with anything that is "hot" is just something I avoid without an observer and my wife works late these days. Besides it ain't the Volts that'll kill ya it's the Amps...and it don't take much. Anyway I installed the horn tonight it's a nice low note jobber that sounds like a truck. the neighbor commented that it didn't sound like a motorcycle. everything checked out ok so we'll see. Peace | ||
| Srl |
Ok, now after reading about all the speedo sensor failures and thinking how great it was that I did not have that problem, my speedo died (X1 8k+ miles). From the maint. manual t/s procedures it looks like the odometer/trip should still be working but mine are not. I have lights and I have the LCD showing the trip and mileage but they do not change. I would think the odometer would be based on speed and time anyway but the manual implies otherwise. So the question is are those the indications of a speedo sensor failure? (all lights, no speed, no change in odometer) I cleaned and re-installed sensor with no change. Another question, the passing flasher has never worked on my bike, anyone had any trouble with this feature? I just demo'ed an XBR9 and that was the first time I'd seen the pass flash work. It's odd because on the X1 under that left control there is an exit point that looks like wires should come but they don't. I thought maybe it was optional or something. Thanks, SRL | ||
| Mikej |
SRL, That's how my M2 behaved when the speedo sensor went out, lights but no speed or odometer change. I haven't heard much about failures with the new speedo sensor (or else I haven't been paying attention). On the highbeam flasher, ensure your lowbeam is on. I've seen some people who always ran with their highbeam on and also thought their flasher didn't work. But you probably thought of that, and it probably isn't the case in your situation. I was thinking of connecting the flasher switch to the aux. lights I added, but never got around to it. | ||
| Oldman |
mine went out with the same problems at 1500 on my 02 m2 | ||
| Rippin |
Me too! '01 M2 with 2800miles! | ||
| Xgecko |
another problem with the high beam flasher could be that the contact's are rusted (or otherwise corroded) open up the left side control and check it out. I know mine needs to be cleaned, I'm just putting off work of that nature until I'm really bored...which given the weather, 75 and sunny, isn't very often. | ||
| Loki |
One day I was workin and my screwstick slipped....I now know what 440 feals like. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Thats the classic speedo sensor failure scenario. No speed registers, trip and odo freeze in time. Mine (2000 m2) went out at 3500 and 3800. After the 3800 failure I added protection when I replaced it (still the old part), and it has been solid since (7500 or so miles now). Nobody has reported back yet with a failure on the new part number, and I know at least one went in. If you are willing to gamble the $50 or so, I would love to see a few of the new units go in without protection and see if they are really fixed. If your dealer only has the old part, I believe I can get it protected for $5 or so worth of parts and just a little bit of work. Maybe you can get them to cut you a deal on it. Bill | ||
| Lootenantdan |
I've mounted Triumph Speed Triple headlights on my 2002 M2. On high-beam, they blow the 15A headlight fuse. I appreciate the dangers of over-fusing, but can I put a 20A fuse in the block and not worry about frying the wiring? I don't know if the stock 15A fuse is there to protect the stock headlight or the stock wiring/switching. | ||
| Srl |
Thanks for the help guys. I have checked the dealers and some show the new Speedo Sensor PN but do not stock it, some say it doesn't exist ("If that was a good number our experts would know about it") Anyway no one can get it in during Bike Week so I'm just driving around watching the tach trying to gauge my speed. Funny thing I really didn't watch the speedo that much (until it was gone) but there are a lot of speed traps here in DB and I don't really trust my RPM to MPH conversion in the face of direct radar (especially in school zones.) Although it would be kinda funny when the cop comes up and says "Do you know how fast you were going?" "Err..no officer to tell you the truth I don't" Passing flasher turned out to be a crimped wire from when it was assembled. Straightened it out and it works fine. SRL | ||
| Mikej |
SRL, If you're staying in a hotel or someplace with an address, some of the vendors out there will ship the sensor to you if they have it in stock (Topeka, Modesto, SportTwin, ASB, others). A shipping charge is less than a speeding ticket. Of course the only speeding tickets I've ever gotten were in vehicles with functional speedos. For some reason I've never been tagged while riding/driving a vehicle with a broken or wandering speedo. Hmmm, never mind. In any case, if you really want one I'm sure you could have one delivered within two working days. | ||
| M2me |
This question might disprove the theory that there is no such thing as a stupid question but I am going to ask it anyway. I have removed my battery for the winter and am wondering if my odometer will be reset to zero when I reinstall the battery. If not, why not? What keeps the LCD odometer memory going when there is no battery? Does it have a small onboard battery like a computer does? I have never owned a motorcycle or car that had anything but a mechanical odometer with little wheels of numbers that spin. Thinking it about I do own a truck that obviously has a computer for fuel injection, etc. but I thought these types of things "relearn" what to do if all power is removed. Anyway, that's my question. Why wouldn't the odometer be reset to zero anytime the battery is removed? | ||
| Blake |
That's a helluva question. It'd have to have a battery to retain mileage, wouldn't it? | ||
| Steveshakeshaft |
[quote] That's a helluva question. It'd have to have a battery to retain mileage, wouldn't it? [unquote] I don't see why. A floppy disc, hard drive or CD rom never "forgets" what you put on it now does it? :-) Steve steve@ukbeg.com http://ukbeg.com | ||
| Blake |
Are you saying our speedos have built in minature permanent storage media? Then they would need a microchip to read it... wouldn't they? (Give me a break, I spent about 8 hours upgrading the OS on a Mac today.) | ||
| Reepicheep |
I wondered about this as well. I assume it has some sort of "flash" ram, where a higher voltage supply can "burn in" a value, where normal voltages will just read it. Same stuff the Bios on your computer uses, and that your digital camera probably uses. This memory is persistent when the power is removed. They could have a little lithium cell in there, but I would not be confident that any of them would be good for more then 10 years or so, and they tend to shut down in cold weather, so I suspect they went the flash ram route. Bill | ||
| M2me |
I did a search on Google and found this (they were talking about cars but I'll bet it's the same for bikes): quote--- Specific designs vary (you didn't mention the make/model) but in many, the distance count (km)is stored in an eeprom (electrically erasable programmable read-only memory, or a flash-type memory) chip. These devices can store data with no power applied unquote-- It sounds like Bill is right, the Buells most likely are storing the odometer in some sort of flash memory. | ||
| Roblasonja |
Have any of you guys tried one of these with the LED option on your bike? It comes from clearalternatives.com  | ||
| Blake |
But it would need a processor to run it right? | ||
| Reepicheep |
It would only need a processor if they tried to use off the shelf computer parts, which I am sure they don't. It is more than likely that there are chips to do exactly this sort of thing with the EEPROM embedded, and simply a serial or parallel series of input lines with a simple "set" line to throw a square wave at. Heck, I bet the speedo chipset is more or less complete and includes the EEPROM internal, complete with the LCD display driver. These kinda things are pretty high volume, and custom chipsets are pretty common. | ||
| Blake |
I have a tie that plays "Jingle Bells". You'd think a guy familiar with satellite communications would know something.  Oh well. | ||
| Sem1 |
Are front and rear turn signals alike on an X-1? Just bought four X-1 signals to put them on my S1W. When I got home, I was surprised to find that two of the four boxes I got from the local HD shop were labeled "left front" and two "right front". To add to my surprise, I was not even able to tell the difference between left and right when I compared two signal assemblies. Is there any? Cheers, Semi | ||
| Ptown |
Sem The difference in the flickers is that the drain groove which is in the middle of the flickerlence close to the flickerlight housing must show downwards when mounted on the bike. As I can see it the two left one´s should then work for the front and rear on the leftside and the otherway on the rightside. | ||
| Sem1 |
Ptown, Thanks! Had to stare a while at a flicker before I noticed the tiny groove in the housing. Cheers, Semi | ||
| Hauck |
Does anyone know where I can buy a smaller brake/tail light? | ||
| Blake |
Left rear and front right would be similar. As would right rear and left front.  | ||
| Oldman |
just took the bike out to run down a friends house to drop something off. was there 10 min. went a mile waited for light to turn left got 50 ft down the road the bike cut off like i ran out of gas. but no electric. after two min. the light came back on and went home. anybody have this happen before. | ||
| Rall |
Oldman Could be a loose battery connection or ground. Mark | ||
| Sparky |
Or there was a momentary short circuit in the wiring from the main circuit breaker that caused the breaker to pop. When the breaker resets, the electrics come on again. Sparky 96S1, 98S3 | ||
| Bighead |
I'd like to put a blue plasma/Xenon headlamp on my s1. I've heard the term HID and was wondering if this is the same thing. Is it as simple as replacing a bulb? | ||
| Ccryder |
Bighead: In a word no. High Intensity Discharge are lights that do not have a filament and require ~20k volts to initially initiate the corona of excited gas. This excited gas is what glows and gives the really bright light. Conventional lights create light by causing the filament to incandesce. Anyway, it would cost you $300+ for HID compared to $15-$40 for conventional lights. But if you want to look into HID further take a look here: HID Kits. These guys are very good to deal with and I have ~12,000 miles on one of their kits. Time2Go Neil S. | ||
| Bomber |
All I'm re-wiring aprt of my Y2K Ma Duece, and would like to lay my hands on some of the woven black plastic wiring cover that the factory uses on much of the wiring (voltage regulator loom, for instance) . . . . I've not been able to find it on the web, or locally (when asked, both the guy at Radio Shack and Lee Auto Parts looked at me like I'd grown a third eye in the middle of my forehead) . . . anyone have a source for this stuff? thanks | ||
| Loki |
Bomber How many feet? Loki | ||
| Trouble |
Bomber-- I got some at a place called *Fry's Electronics*, here in Phoenix. Don't know if they are all over the country. Joe | ||
| Henrik |
Neil: tell me more about those PIAA lights, please. Did you do anything to support the fairing or are the lights light enough? How do you like the light pattern? Henrik |
