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F16hd
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake,
Thanks for doing so much math (wow). The oem lever is 4.5" long. This setup's lever is 6.0" (not 7.5) with a 10mm (.393") diameter arm (it was an old mirror arm I had laying around). Based on how hard it was to bend, there appears little chance of bending it in in normal use. Even so, the new versions will use a rectangular billet arm (the rod is too uncivilized).
Total lever movement is alot less than stock because the heims and wide nylon pivot bushings take out all unneccesary slack. The only remaining slack movement is a result of a poor fit of the pawl spring behind the primary cover (I plan to eliminate that next). I will likely make the production versions with two possible fulcrum mount points on the L arm to allow for ever shorter (but slightly stiffer) shifts. All in all, it offers a very "japanese" feeling shifts.
Unfortunately my peg pivot arm will pretty much eliminate the use of peg based centerstands (I built my centerstand to hold on a rod through the rear axle).... for me, the shifts are worth the stand inconvienience.
My aol is keeping me from posting other pix right now. Ping me if you want me to mail the other view.

Harry in AZ
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Blake
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2002 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Harry: Interesting, the lever on my '00 M2 with old style pivot at the peg is 6", so I guess the factory knew what it was doing eh? The 10mm diameter will make a huge difference compared to the 1/4" estimate I used. You have no worries. I'm with you on the improved appearance of a billet arm though.

Blake

PS: Heck yeah, send me the other pic! blake@badweatherbikers.com
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Ccryder
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll second the Mobil 1 gear lube in the tranny. I like it better than the Redline, and that was good. My trick to 1st is to pull in the clutch, wait a few seconds, and then kinda slowly shift into 1st. 50% of the time you can hardly hear it go into gear, the other 50% it kinda clunks. I don't stomp it like I see too many people do. Just my $0.02

Time4Sleep
Neil S.
p.s MRR sorry I missed ya this weekend. Bud's has a demo V-rod, got any ideas?
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Ara
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can you guys please be more specific about the Mobil 1 trans lube? I have never seen it in the apto parts or department stores. Does it come in various weights/viscosities? I've been hunting for something better than Sport Trans for years!

Russ
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Jasonl
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ara - It's Mobil1 Gear Lube. Most auto parts stores in Richmond, Va stock it on the shelves. The stuff I buy comes in 75-90w viscosity.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2002 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Any ideas on what your cost is going to end up being for that new shifter Harry? The wife balances the checkbook now, so these things take a little more planning :)

I always liked the Banke setup, but did not want to relocate the pegs back. Plus, the $300 cost was a bit high for those of us more concerned with function then appearence. If you could put this thing together for $100 or so (what I think I paid for the Buell unit), I think your sales would do very well, and Buell would suddenly find their sales at near zero... I am still a little annoyed that a redesigned part still seemed to have some pretty obvious flaws...

Bill
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Porkchop
Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2002 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK guys I need a little help here .First I've got a S1 that I want to put some serious miles on this spring but I destroyed a knee a few years ago and my left one will not take more than three hours in that position how am I going to mount some pegs forward or do you guy have some ideas thanks
PC
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Al_Lighton
Posted on Monday, January 21, 2002 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PC,
Not to be a jerk but the first idea that comes to my mind based on your problem statement is a new bike. "serious miles" and "pegs forward" don't seem to go together with an S1 seat. If you can't lift your ass off the tiny seat on occasion because the pegs are too far forward to get the right leverage, that seat will just kill you.

That said, I may go on the all-california ride on my S1W this spring. I think I'll schedule the ass-ectomy for when I return, however. There won't be much left of it after the 2k trip. Ouch!

Al
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Spike
Posted on Monday, January 21, 2002 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PC,

Any chance you could use the stock sportster mounting points?

Spike
'99 Cyclone
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Blake
Posted on Monday, January 21, 2002 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PChop: S3T pegs? Sportster Pegs? Yoga? Massage Therapy? Acupuncture? Alieve? Cortizone? Bullet?

All of the above?
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Porkchopo . . . .my kneees are also shot (mostly due to my hurling myself against the planet at a high rate of speed way to often when my hair has a different color . . . . .)

I've found that a GOOD knee brace can really help me . . . .it took awhile to get to where I could cinch it up to the right degree of tightness around my knee, but, once I got it right, it added hours to my seat time . . . . .now, it's my bladder and gas tank that decide how far I go . . . . . .
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Bull
Posted on Friday, January 25, 2002 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can anyone post a picture on the M2 rearset available at ASB (fitted on a bike)?? I'm eager to get hold of a rearset that both looks good and functions properly... there seems to be different disadvantages with for ex Banke or Crossroads. Since the cost for a decent rearset is quite high and I'm rather safe than sorry when ordering... so feel free to make comments on this topic.

I'm currently fitting a new shorter/narrower c-f tailsection and twin headlights on the bike (I guess I'm going for the German-style aggressive "streetfighter" look on the 'ol deuce).

Cheers and thanks Guys/ Jojje
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Johnc
Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Left Peg N0403.Q $6.95
Right Peg N0404.Q $6.95 (See top of page)
I ordered some of these pegs today but the price has gone up to $13.26 each now. They are $24.95 each at Canadain dealers (Cdn dollars). They are going to look good on my M2!
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Mr_Bill
Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 05:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi All.

Well, I've had my bike (2000 S3)for 5 whole days now, and it took me about a day to discover that I REALLY hate the shifter on it. I've been thinking of changing over to the 2001 style shifter setup. Has anybody done this? If so how does it work? I feel like I need to do something and I really don't want to spend the money for the Banke set-up right now.

Thanks!
Bill
AZ
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Ccryder
Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bill:
Go with the 2001 shifter. You will like the change. Banke makes a very, very good product and for what you get it is worth the $'s, but being a cheap ass, I went with the 2001 and the oil-lite bushings from American Sport Bike. When you get some miles on your bike you may want to try the Mobile 1 gear lube. I had a good shifting X-3, and now it is a great shifting X-3.

Time2Ride
Neil S.
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Al_Lighton
Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2002 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The CRG billet bar end mirrors are great, I love 'em on my S1W. However, I lane split daily for 10-15 miles up I5, and I worry about the dreaded mirror tick that's gonna happen someday. Check out the new CRG mirror:

CRG LS mirror

Pretty cool, eh?
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Seeeu911
Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 06:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks smart, I wonder if you can retro fit?
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Al_Lighton
Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2002 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Donn,
Yes you can, $19.50 each

http://www.constructorsrg.com/page10.html
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Jsunstar
Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2002 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Need S2 corbin seat info!
I was wondering if anyone has used a Corbin seat for their 95 S2 that accepts a removeable seatrest?
the corbin catalog says it can be used with the seatrest but ive heard different.
The corbin part #'s are ds-902043 for the seat and ds-902558 for the backrest.
so many conflicting answers ive gottem. my girl wont ride without a seatrest, she worries about falling off.
thanks
Jason h
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Henrik
Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2002 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jason: Awhile ago I called Corbin to ask for a Gunfighter & Lady seat w/ backrest. At that time they didn't sell one. Let me know if you find out differently.

Henrik
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S2no1
Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2002 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jason,

Last time I checked. The seatrest is for the S3 seat, not the S2. It is not clear in the catalog.

Isn't she supposed to hold on tighter? That what happens on BMW's.
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Jsunstar
Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2002 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The corbin catalog says it will fit, i dont wanna spend alot of $$ if it doesnt...
check cas4's site for details, they are pretty cheap for some stuff...follow this url for the seat.
http://www.cas4.com/Buell/Seats-Saddles/corbin/Buell%20Seats%20by%20Corbin.htm
Jason
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Henrik
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jason: Check out

Corbin's own site

They have the right info and cheaper prices. However, how much effort do you think they put into S2 seats when they don't even have the years right :)

Henrik
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Jsunstar
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Corbins seat answer about the backrest...
no, they dont make it and no, they wont make you one custom...
i guess she will just have to hold on tight...
o well
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Jsunstar
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Need pics of banke shifter setup on an 95 S2...
If anyone has any shots of what the banke shifter and brake setup looks like on a 95 S2, i would be appreciative...email me personally or put em up here.
TIA
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Sportyeric
Posted on Monday, February 18, 2002 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not Buell quality, but good enough for a Sportster. Just wanted to show what can be done with a drillpress and slide table, a couple of hole saws, and about eight dozen beers. In hindsight, the heavy-looking caps weren't necessary. Just bolting the bar onto the grooved bottom would be sufficient. In this pic the pinch bolts aren't yet countersunk and the pinch slot not cut yet.
my homemade clip-ons
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Johnc
Posted on Monday, February 18, 2002 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anyone tried to use the Banke footpeg relocation kit sold by Sporttwin on a 2000 M2? My bike has been upgraded to the 2001 style shifter and I wondered if I relocate the footpegs if I could use a shift lever for an X1 to make it reachable.
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Seeeu911
Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 06:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Eric, you are a much better machinist than a photographer, nice work on your sportster by the way.
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Sportyeric
Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cheap webcam and over-zealous compression. But thanks.
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Loqtus
Posted on Thursday, February 21, 2002 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Which 01 shifter kit would fit on a 96 S1?
Somebody must have done this. (Tripper?) I did the search thing but found nothing.
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