| Author | Message | ||
     Nevco1 |
Oh shucks, I forgot. No road rash or scars except for the one where they plumbed me for internal bleeding. If I had not been wearing a helmet, I would have been dead on impact. Additionally, if it had not been a quality Full Face helmet, I would not have a face. Check your insurance policies. Most of them don't cover plastic surgery. They will reconstruct but not to the extent you would like. Translation: you could look like the comic character "Bizzaro" for the rest of your life. Going back to the full face helmet thing, I am not referring to those with the flip up front as a number of years ago one of the major bike rags did a test on them and they failed in certain impacts. Quite simply the integrity of these helmets was compromised by the hinge mechanism that permitted the flip up feature. I am sure that there have been design changes since then, but I have neither seen the manufacturers tout them nor another objective/comprehensive test of the hinges. Don't believe me? Ask around why HD sold them under private label for a few years in the 1980's and then switched to solid full face helmets. Interesting when you consider the number of smoker's among their customers. If any of you have any updated info on the flip up helmets, please let me know. I do like the concept and would love to get one if I was more confident in their design upgrades and related protection. Oh yeah, I am slightly fickle concerning helmet use. I am Pro Choice. I wear them on sport bikes but shine them on the cruisers. The difference is my personal riding style on each. My risk factor goes way up on the sport bikes and I am happy just putting along on the cruisers. Flame me if you like. That is just my preference. | ||
| Bomber |
Bill . . . .I was being sarcastic about your sarcasm . . . . .(does that cancel it out? hmmmmmm) I agree about the group ride thing, and the small group thing, and damn near all your wrote . . . .. when going into combat, choose your comrades carefully . . ... . same goes for riding | ||
| Nevco1 |
Bomber...Ok, so you found fault in my interpretation of "Dogwood." LOL | ||
| Nevco1 |
On the serious side, what part(s) do you not agree with? Let me know. Am most certainly always looking for a fresh point of view. Definitely, can't learn anything if one is not open to discussion. Just don't bust me (too bad) on "not playing well with others." I never did pass that course. LOL | ||
| Cj_xb |
when going into combat, choose your comrades carefully . . ... . same goes for riding That's why I like to ride in the back, not responsible for anyone behind me, only me, myself, and I !!!! Especially around a few of those nasty turns where I end up on the other side of the road !! Don't want to cause any undue harm to anyone else !! CJ  | ||
| Nevco1 |
CJ...I know not of what you speak and was not referring to you or any other specific person. However, in reference to the rides I have been on with BC, it is apparent that some leaders rode their ride and not all were comfortable with it. I hope I wasn't one of the inconsiderate ones. If I was, looks like it is time for another apology. | ||
| Bomber |
brer bill . . . .. don't disagree with a thing, really, just leavin myself an out is all (cept mebbe the flip front helmet thing . . . .there are a couple that are built like bank vaults, and, while they may not offer 100% of the protection of the normal full face, they're damn close, I believe) | ||
| Cj_xb |
Bill, no wasn't refering to you at all !! I've been on a ride or two up in the eagle area and Bomber has been behind me on two occassions on the same curve that I didn't take too well and ended up both times on the other side of the road !! But at the beginning of each ride, I've wanted to ride that particular stretch of road dead last, cause I know I don't do it well and I don't want to cause someone behind me to end up hurt because of my lack of riding skills, seriously !! But each time Bomber rode behind me anyway, which was very nice, but I was just giving him crap cause each time I ask for him NOT to be behind me and he gives me crap back !! Was just trying to say when I do feel my skills aren't up to par or the others I ride with are better and faster than me, I seriously try to ride at the back. So I won't hold them up, or have them run into me when I do something I shouldn't, so in essence honestly agreeing with what you said !! CJ | ||
| Lake_bueller |
Nev, Bomber & Dana....my hotmail account somehow went belly up on me today. I was going to scan the maps I have and email them tomorrow. Now you'll just have to wait until another week (not like you'll get any riding in next week). I'm heading to the wine country for some well deserved (if you don't mind me saying so) R&R. Unfortunately, my riding plans didn't come to fruition (missed it by that much in my best Get Smart voice Have a great week. I'll be back online sometime during the week of Feb. 16 | ||
| Nevco1 |
CJ...I have seen you ride and your skills are just fine. It appears that you ride your ride and are comfortable with that. Other than just plain practice, your interaction with Bomber is a real asset. The man is a Saint and knows how to both ride and teach with smiling confidence. Thanks for your understanding. None of what I said was directed at any ONE. It was meant for the benefit of all. I just get a little long winded (read: redundant and boring) and opinionated (read: anal retentive) about certain subjects. | ||
| Nevco1 |
Lake...Have a great trip! Looking forward to receiving the maps when you have the time to send them. | ||
| Nevco1 |
Bomber...I was laughing all the time I was writing the helmet piece as I know you wear a flip front. Now, take the indirect challenge I gave and show me that they are better than that prox 10 year old test reported. I really would like one if they are relatively close to the strength of a full face. I assume they rank somewhere between a 3/4 helmet and a full face. I would just like to know where in that range the various models fall. The failure point actually was the hinge bolts. They either snapped and/or pulled out. Like I said, there most likely have been improvements in both construction and performance, I just don't know what they are. Seems all the helmet manufacturers do is tell you about their one hand operation, convenience factor, DOT compliance, etc, but never address the age old hinge issue. Shuberth (sp?), Shoei and Nolan are the brands I am interested in. I have a number of friends that went from Shuberth to Nolan over the years. They like the Nolan for price, comfort, etc. Never considered the Shoei as it was too close in price to the Shuberth. Remember the German made Shuberth supplied both BMW and HD with their private labeled helmet. Really got a kick out of the white dimpled model they made. "The Golf Ball" was supposed to be the most aerodynamic helmet of it's day. It just never made the big time compliments of its weird look and price point. LOL | ||
| Nevco1 |
HOMECOMING QUESTION ??? I have not been following the AMA racing threads on the BWB and am interested in learning what class(es) Buells will be running in at the AMA event at Road America on June 5th. Thanks in advance for the information. | ||
| Dynarider |
Will they even be running there??? I dont know. As far as riding your own pace..I agree 100%. I prefer to take up the rear in group rides, that way I can see who is doing what & can avoid any potentially bad situations. Plus I am not to proud to admit that I am still a little aprehensive about corners ever since my little unplanned tumble down I-94 16 months ago. I just cant shake it either. I dont have 100% confidence in the bikes capabilities. I need to get out on the track a couple times this year & blow off some of the rust I have been building up by riding a cruiser. Bill I agree on the helmet deal & when I am on a sportbike I have no problems wearing one at all & usually do. But on the Harley you ride a slower pace & dont push yourself & even tho the same element of danger is there, you just feel a bit safer. Course if the wife & I hadnt had our helmets on the day we tumbled, I dont know if either of us would have made it. We both smacked the ground pretty good & I slid along the faceshield..much better than sliding on your cheeks or nose. | ||
| Nevco1 |
If anyone is interested, both the HOG and BRAG sites feature and promote not just the basic riders edge course but both group riding and advanced coursed for experienced riders (via MSF). Check it out! Just might be the ticket for a growing club and regional/national event organizers. For the individual advanced course, riders edge and a years experience (probably two years in our climate) would qualify you. From what I know of the experienced riders course, it focuses on handling the unexpected situations you are bound to encounter as you venture out beyond the 'hood. It is no racers class, just practical application and could be of real benefit. | ||
| Nevco1 |
Amen Dyna... FYI, my plans are to get two flip ups and keep them in the T-bag on the Wide Glide. They will sit in the bag most of the time, but will be used when we run the superslab, have distances to cover or face inclement weather. Not a bad compromise. Most of my cruiser riding is in the kettles and in the 'burbs. All of it at conservative speeds. The Glider has changed my riding pattern once again. Yet, I can't believe how great it handles the twisties at speed and I have yet to ground a peg. LOL With the Buell, I have to constantly remind myself to slow down to be some where near the limit. Whereas on the Glider, I find myself having to wick it up to even do the limit. The funny part is both bikes are satisfying for both of us. In fact, Di loves the Buell for the speed and cornering and she loves the Glider for taking time to smell the roses. I think I am developing a schizo split personality. LOL | ||
| Nevco1 |
Dyna...concerning Buells at Road America, I think they will be running in Formula Extreme (if they run that event) due to the revised rules. I remember that last year some series the XB9's were designed for got bumped compliments of the BMW event, but am not sure that is still going this year. I just gave up trying to follow the race channel on the BWB due to the Blake/Jose Wars. Man when the two of them get into it, they make me sound like an angel and y'all know what a schmuck I am. LOL | ||
| Bads1 |
Bill to what I understand BMW is still running.BUELL will be running formula Extreme at Road America | ||
| Dynarider |
BMW was a 1 race deal last year at Daytona. Was never intended to be anything buy an exhibition. Didnt displace any other classes, although the Buell faithful will claim the ama dropped them in favor of BMW. | ||
| Bads1 |
I read something somewhere that it is to continue.Damn one of my mags recently to. |
