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Nevco1
Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dana, I don't think you need to worry about your wife. There should be plenty of her friends from Uke's to ride with if you are stuck doing something. Plus, the gal's always get treated like Royalty by the visiting Bueller's.

I can't imagine any of the guys taking the gals for a ride at a pace above their ability. Then again, you have some gal's at Uke's that I am sure can teach the guys a trick or two about riding.

Works both ways! LOL
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The girls and the few people that I spoke to about the Ukes class felt it was a great class and walked away happy.So I decided to let Andrea make that decision
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah you must be talking about Heather?? I know what you mean.I rode with her a few times this past Summer and she's a hoot to watch.
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Nevco1
Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And again Dyna is right....Garble, gag, gasp...I don't know how many more times I can say that with out choking to death. LOL

The road guard thing is illegal in Wisconsin unless your ride has been cleared by both the state and local police.

Additionally, riding in groups larger than six bikes is also illegal without leaving a car length or two between the groups.

Granted it isn't enforced that much and apparently is a Road Sharing thing with some rationale to back it up. Additionally, it appears to be just another tool the police can use to justify a "probable cause" stop.

The theory is that a string of six bikes riding in staggered formation equates the length of a Semi (tractor/trailer truck) and that is the longest vehicle allowed on public roads Wisconsin.

I got this info from a local chapter road captain tonight. Additionally, his special interest riding group is extremely concerned about their image and the legality of everything they do. Thus they ride in pods of six with the appropriate spacing every time they ride together. They also do a number of other things to keep the ride safe, but I won't bore you with that now.

Will keep checking to see if I get any other information. In the interim, I suggest that you plan even your club rides accordingly.

Yeah, I know it's winter and that sounds stupid. I just care about you all, keeping the rides safe and not attracting any unwanted attention from the law.

Ciao


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Nevco1
Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heather...The Mistress of BattleTrax. LOL

I only saw her ride at the Suburban BattleTrax and it was quite apparent that she knows what she is doing and is a real contender. However, she wasn't the only woman from your group that demonstrated excellent skills and judgment.

Take the compliment. The Uke's group is a very well rounded group that functions well together.
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bomber,
Will email you later this morning with my tel number. Heading down Saturday past your way if you'll be around, either late mid-morning or late late-afternoon.

Gotta reboot the system now.....

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"riding in groups larger than six bikes is also illegal "

Biker gang legislation. Just like the anti-cruising rules in town, one too many times down the same street in a set amount of time and you can get cited.
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Dynarider
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Biker gang legislation. Just like the anti-cruising rules in town, one too many times down the same street in a set amount of time and you can get cited.

Screw Greenfield & that ridiculous law. Most asinine thing I have read.


Mike, you headed down to the bike show Saturday? If so & you will have a cell phone on you email your number. Im planning on being there around noonish or so. Spend a few hrs kicking tires.
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No bike show, visiting indirect relatives instead.
Number on the way.
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Cj_xb
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

not see the states largest dogwood tree by yourself. LOL

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Bomber
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good on Uke's for staying the course they originally chose for their activities . . .. .

personally, I wouldn't take Peggy's job on a bet . . . . the rock is H-D's Iron tower, and the hard palce is Buellers . . . . .. . if she can survive a couple of years of this, sdhe'll have proven she's made of good stuff, indeed . . . . .
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike . . . . .waitin on the number, sir
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Dynarider
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its true CJ, those self guided tours arent what people come for. Like I said Harley has tried that at a couple of the national events & it didnt go over so well.

The one thing they held which did pretty well was a poker run for MD. It basically was a self guided tours with appointed stops along the way where you would get your card stamped. Collect so many & then you would get a MD pin when you came back. It gave you a goal at least.
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Cj_xb
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree Dyna, I'm just picturing some poor lost soul looking at the biggest dogwood tree all by themselves and your right, no one wants that !!!!

With a bunch of other Buellers maybe, alone, no !!

I just had to laugh at that !!

And isn't that what self guided tour means, your on your own, I agree what's the point just give everyone a map and visitors guide !!


CJ : )
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bomber,
Should be at spokes.....
unless the system here is messin' with me again.
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mike . . .confirm system-messing status is positive . . . . . .
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Mikej
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the call.
Off shortly to head to Northern Hardware to play with some ideas. Hmmm, maybe they're hiring????? That could be dangerous.
Mike.


edited by mikej on February 06, 2004
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

always dangerous places, them hardware stores

ya gots mail
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Nevco1
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Am enjoying all the humor about the self guided tour concept. Dogwood trees? Thought that was a Southern Phenomenon and that around here all Dogwood meant was some old nasty firewood that smolders and never really burns cause every dog in town took a leak on your stack of wood. LOL

For this type of event, I like the idea of self guided tours. Self guided tours are simply providing a maps of great riding roads and perhaps some points of interest. Then allocating time for the visitors to form their own groups and head off to explore the area. There may be a few solo explorers, but at this function, I doubt it.

The neatest thing about self guided tours is all you do is provide a map. If they go fine, if they don't fine. In essence, it is up to the individual to decide if they are up to or want to do them.

The catch is as it is not an official organized ride with all the hoopla. Therefore, there is no liability for either corporate, the dealers or the local clubs.

In essence, you are free to go collect all the tickets you want and get yourself (and/or somebody else) maimed or killed while attempting to prove you are Gods Gift to Motorcycling.

Apologize for the cold sarcasm, but it is both reality and the primary reason I ride alone or in small groups with folks I trust.
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Bomber
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

bill . . . .not seeing the sarcasm . . . would you be so kind as to highlight that portion of the message?
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Nevco1
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

John...The last paragraph was the cold part that could have been considered sarcasm if one is not open minded and prone to being offended by my posts.

Inherently, riding is a high risk activity that can be managed both mentally and physically by the individual rider.

I know I am not alone on this one. I have seen and heard of way too many incidents where folks get in over their heads in the excitement of riding with a group that is inconsiderate of the skills of the least experienced rider in the group.

This also applies to even small groups of highly experienced riders that have not ridden together (much) and can't predict how the others are going to react to a situation.

I probably should have said something like "ride your own ride," etc. However, phrases like that are so common that folks forget them when caught up in the excitement. The same applies to learned riding skills in a tense moment until they become second nature and instinctive/predictable reactions.

Ergo, I used the last paragraph for its shock value in hopes of causing a reality check. Trust me, I am not trying to talk down to anyone. I just care about them and want them to enjoy an incident free event.

I also have a personal reason for being a jerk about this. April 26, 1993 was my Day of Shame. I crashed and burned in the mountains on the way home from a run up the coast from LA to San Francisco.

Maimed myself good on that one plus I totaled a new bike. Wasn't riding over my head, I was sight seeing at 45 mph in the mountains above Ojai. The road turned left and I didn't. I got caught in the loose gravel on the road and in a turnout. Thank God I didn't go over the cliff with the bike.

Busted myself up pretty good. Broke my collar bone, eight ribs in front, five ribs in the rear, separated my shoulder and smashed my left shoulder blade.

My "reward" was a $5,000 helicopter ride to the Ventura Hospital and a few days later a $1,000 ambulance ride from the Ventura to Mission Viejo Hospital. Five day's total in the hospitals.

It took six months to mend. However, I still have limited mobility with my left arm and am permanently disfigured (structurally) with 24/7 pain ever since. Translation: I can forecast weather better than the folks on TV/Radio.

Lots of (now) funny stories about the incident and what I did later to train myself to handle a bike while sliding both the front and rear.

Let's just conclude with I care about my fellow bikers and would like to see them to manage their risks by learning from the mistakes of others, not their own.
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