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Kcbill
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is that spy code? You guys can't fool me.
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V2win
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

knowledge = ignorance

These two go together. As you become more knowledgeable, you realize how ignorant you are.
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Shazam
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, here we go.....

Last night I began the task of determining what locked up my motor, let's just say I've got lots of loose parts and no answers....yet! more teardown to come....

I pulled the rocker box covers and inspected the rocker arms......no visible damage

removed the rocker boxes and pulled the pushrods...all straight, no visible damage

The heads show no external signs of anything being wrong...valves look OK, springs and retainers all seem OK.....no visible damage
combustion chambers are clean. Front one has a little more soot than the back but YIPPEEE! no piston/valve damage, no pitting or anything on the domes.......

motor still won't turn.

Pull the jugs off the slugs.....slide like butter...YIPPPEEEE!! No cylinder scuffing or hot spots, no broken rings....no visible damage....wrist pins rotate freely rods move on the crank......At this point I am feeling a lot better, However the motor still won't turn....

I have the primary cover off and although I haven't taken the primary chain off I should be able to turn the crank the extent of the slack in that chain... no luck still froze solid.

swap sides, pull the timing cover off, all the cams still have the teeth on them, none are flat, no serious wear marks evident on the lobes. no visible damage.....

At this point I'm getting confused...there just isn't much left in the motor....

I start pulling the cams to check the lifters all four float up and down freely, rollers intact......here we go again no visible damage..

Crank still won't budge.....

So here I was sitting in the garage with my last cold beer of the night at 1:30am thinking......Something has jammed the flywheel or a bearing in the case has spun? oil pump locked up?

This shit is weird, of all the terrible things I had dreamt up that I would have to replace because of this, those things all look OK......something had to have fallen into the sump...... wrist pin retainer? I am just thinking out loud here.......

I'll keep you posted. I've got some more looking to do.

there's not even anything cool to take pictures of yet? except the mess I've made of the garage and about twenty empty beer bottles.
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Shazam
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

John I realized how ignorant you were a long time ago
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Dasxb9s
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sam...

YOU SELFISH BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!

You drank that much beer and you didn't have me come over to help. DO YOU KNOW HOW FAR BEHIND I AM IN MY PROJECT TO BECOME AN ALCOHOLIC!!!?????

Young man... I am VERY disappointed... and I had a BIG bags of M&Ms in the CR-V.

I am sorry... but I am going to have to go over your head on this... Put Barbie at the keyboard!
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Dasxb9s
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sam...

One more thing...

When I was over helping you when you had the engine apart on New Years... I lost my Casio watch... I remember it kept getting in the way and I set it on the valve cover of the head that wasn't torn down... so when you crack the cases apart... if you find a watch... it's mine!
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Shazam
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If that's what I find you'll get it back for sure..... so far up your ass you'll still have to look up to tell the time. hahahahaha

Out of curiosity I went home at lunch and checked, all the wrist pin retainers are still in it!

I'll keep thinking.......can't screw anything else up doing that?
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Dasxb9s
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sam...

Careful there fella...

You should not open doors with a loaded comment... so many disasters have started off with... "It sure seemed like a neat idea at the time!"

On second thought... finders keepers... if you find it... you can keep the watch!!!

Of course I may just be jealous... quite often I try to think... and nothin happens!

You did remember to remove that shop towel stuffed at the bottom of the rod to keep the debris out of the case... right? Besides losing my watch... I did end up short one shop towel too! I remember having the stuff when I went to your place and I am also missing...

a pair of glasses

a pen

3 rings

my handkerchief

my cellphone

a motorola pager

a pocket knife

two buttons off my shirt

a handcuff key

a condom 3 pack

a bottle opener

and

an umbrella


One more thing...
I don't remember where I put those beer bottle caps... but when I went to get them to toss them in the trash... I couldn't find them.

Let me know if you find any of that stuff... OK Sam?


BTW... thanks for letting me help work on your XB!!

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S2scott
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sam I am wondering about the obvious, you stated you had a 1000 foot skidmark on I435 and I am wondering if the engine locked up why you didnt just pull in the clutch and coast? If you did pull in the clutch did it coast and if not could the problem be a transmission lockup?
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Dasxb9s
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is like I have always told Sam...

"If I have told you once... I have told you a millions times...


don't exaggerate!!!!!!!"
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Shazam
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First thing I did was pull the clutch...... with all three hands.....and yes that freed it up, but as fast as I was travelling......(I won't say) by the time I reacted I had left my mark, so to speak, on a considerable amount of pavement....the thousand foot comment was obviously a guestimate as it seemed like forever when your thinking it through and re-acting to it. figure roughly 180ft/sec, a full sec to re-swallow your sphincter and overcome the taste, and another to fully grasp and react to your situation, all while trying to maintain and control a "scab like no other" situation.......your right, 1000 foot seems a little long.

It's just after times like those, you couldn't pry the cigarettes (all four of 'em) from my ghostly white digits with astrolube and jaws of life........well, maybe the threat of astrostuff! it'd still be a tough sell....
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Shazam
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

exagerate = exacerbate

see I can play too!
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Dasxb9s
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had to get the dictionary out for that one... I thought that was when you found a private place and got out the newest copy of National Geographic!

Sam...

smaller words!!!!
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Dasxb9s
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

or maybe I should say

simpler words
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Shazam
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

or maybe you should say


you want fries with that?
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Kcfirebolt
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sam

Have you talked to the guys at Nallins? They might be able to tell you where else to look. Hurry up man, you've only got 2.5 months till spring!
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S2scott
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You dont have much left, it has to be the crank berrings or something it hit EG a watch.
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Dasxb9s
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sam...

Don't make fun of the food service industry!

With my lack of formal education and the number of marketable job skills outside of government service... my only retirement employment prospects are...

food service industry

janitorial

mercenary

or

hit man

I was really wanting to be a street car conductor... but I don't want to move to San Francisco in the Peoples Republic of California. I wonder of Governor Arnold needs a hit man?
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Kcfirebolt
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You could always be a Greeter at Wal-Mart!

(quick exit stage left)
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Shazam
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scott,
I agree there's not much left in there, but whatever it is it's stuck! I can't think of anything else that could've come loose or fallen(ie: wrist pin retainer, ring bits, piston skirts). I will know soon enough.

Charles,
Aaron contacted me, no telling who's reading this junk! eh? while I'm at it....Mr. Buell..... incorporate some frame slider mounts to the XB frame, please!

Dennis,
You could always try your hand at my line of work.......master pick-pocket:

a pair of glasses

a pen

3 rings

my handkerchief

my cellphone

a motorola pager

a pocket knife

two buttons off my shirt

a handcuff key

a condom 3 pack

a bottle opener

and

an umbrella

and a CD of indeterminate value.....to anyone with ears!
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