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Cj_xb
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Daves, now we can get it copied and have our 2004 schedule already done, so easy !!! LOL

CJ



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Daves
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2003 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Ride to the edge!
Dave
Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center)
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Newguy
Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I think I saw the last of the riding season today. I went out riding this morning. Other than being a little chilly, everything seemed to be all fine and dandy until I was hit by about a half inch of lake effect snow. Oh well.

Til next year, Newguy
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SAD SAD DAY FOR THE NEWFIE

I finally had to put the S1 a.k.a. Saucy Bitch and the 900se Convertible away for the winter.

At least they have each other out there in the cold!!!!!!!!

At least this year I have a Propane Furnace so I can go out and do things to my toys.......so I don't miss them.

OH WELL
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Cj_xb
Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got the XB out today, not for long it's darn cold, but long enough to ride a round a little and fill it up with gas.

My question is now, if I run the gas out of the lines and put stabil in, is it really necessary to take the battery out ??? What would happen if I didn't take the battery out ??

Any suggestions on the best way to winterize it ??

CJ
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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, November 09, 2003 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cj xb take the battery out for sure.Change the oil and primary fluid before storage.Check the tire pressure and then put a cover on it.Look in the Fuell mag. that you should of gotten.They talk about storage this issue.One of us guys in the club would be more then willing to help you out with the fluid changes,that are important.
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Newfie_buell
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Should you run all the fuel out of a fuel injected bike??

I have always only run the carb dry, drained the float, either drained the tank or filled it full, changed the fluids and taken the battery out to be kept in the warm house.

Always worked for me - this year I have to do a more extensive service as there is almost 40,000km on it now and I think I will service the head bearings again, Brake fluid needs to be changed, primary tensioner is at its last stages of adjustment and I am thinking of having the heads ported & polished so I may just drop in some new pistons, rings and if I am going that far maybe a set of cams.

OH WELL - Its all about the torque!!!!!
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Personally I would avoid Stabil. Used it once & would never ever use it again. Besides todays fuels are better & last longer than the ones from years ago. My lawnmower, weedwacker, etc sit all winter & they run just fine in the spring.

Besides I never really put the bike away, never know when you are going to get that 60deg january day. Just throw a battery tender on & forget about it.

PS...stabil is a lot like bikes, some folks have had good luck & some have had bad. I actually had to pull the carbs & tank on my Yammy & flush everything out to get the bike to run after using it. It had coated everything with a nice reddish colored gunk. The float needles were almost welded into the seats, had to use pliers to remove them...bad stuff in my opinion. Would never ever use it on a FI bike.
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Cj_xb
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of us guys in the club would be more then willing to help you out with the fluid changes,that are important.

I might need someone to help tell me how to take the battery out, last year my brother in law showed me how on the Blast, I hope the XB is as easy as the Blast was !!

I sure can't change the oil or anything, but I'll wait until I get my Fuell, which I haven't gotten yet, my mail must be slow !!

I'll see what I can get done myself and get back to you, thanks Dana !!

CJ
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Court
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damint...I HATE when we agree.

>>>>Just throw a battery tender on & forget about it.


That's what I do. Pulling the battery out and Stabil are a waste of time, given today's batterys and fuel.

Put a battery tender on it and don't start it all winter, unless you are going to run it long enough to bring it up to full opertating temperature.
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Dynarider
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damint...I HATE when we agree.

Hehe. :D

Too many people have this weird deal with draining all the fluids, fogging the cylinders, etc etc. Look at a car lot & see all the cars sitting there for months & months. Do you think they have stabil in the tanks?
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Cj_xb
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Put a battery tender on it and don't start it all winter, unless you are going to run it long enough to bring it up to full opertating temperature.

Okay what is a battery tender, where do you go about finding one, what's the approximate cost, and will it have directions for me to follow that are easy to understand and easy to do ??

Sure sounds better than changing oil, fluids, taking out the battery etc. !!

CJ

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Mikej
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CJ,
Ease comes with experience. If your bike is someplace it can be worked on then invite someone over and position a chair for them to sit on while they guide you through the process. For fluid and filter changes the biggest hassle you'll have is where to dispose of the old fluids. The most important point during the process is taking your time and ensuring you have reassembled everything correctly. Take your time, follow the steps that work for you, and double-check your work when completed. If you get interrupted when double-checking then start over.

A BatteryTender is basically a battery charger of sorts. It is a low rate trickle charger that is supposed to have enough smarts built-in to measure when your battery is fully charged and then shuts off until your battery's voltage drops to some predetermined level and then starts to trickle-charge your battery back up again. The S2 rarely needs one, the M2 always does (probably due to a slow drain from the alarm system on the M2).

A basic tool kit for probably less than $50 should be all you need to get started. Oh, and the service manuals as well that will cost you another $50 or so.

But be forewarned, people will stop and ask what happened when you show up for work on Monday morning and have grease under your fingernails.

Go for it, the self assurance and self reliance of knowing you can do some or all of your own repair work is worth more than you can imagine when you're tooling down a back road up north or west and are far away from a shop or friends with tools. You'll have a deeper appreciation for mechanical things, and will develop a sixth sense about issues about to surface. A funny noise will no longer be just a funny noise but will become a loose primary chain that just needs a slight adjustment. It worth the effort. At the very least, if you still want to take your bike in to a shop for service then you'll at least know what you're paying them for.
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, and there have been a few instances of battery chargers causing fires, sometimes due to the clips coming unclipped and shorting and sparking. The safest way is to install a plug to plug the charger into. Had one on the M2 pre-wreck but removed it.
Some people always remove the battery and never leave a charger unattended when charging a battery still in a vehicle. Other people just clip on the charger and don't worry about it at all.
Just a heads-up, not to cause concern, just to help keep you aware. If you clip, ensure it is a good clip and won't slip off when you walk away.
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Daves
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CJ,
How many miles did you get on it? Have you had the 1000 mile service done? I can't remember if you've already told me this(I'm gettin old ya know)
If you have any questions or need a battery tender give me a call.


Ride to the edge!
Dave
Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center)
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Cj_xb
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, and there have been a few instances of battery chargers causing fires,

Freaking great, not sure I should take a chance on setting the garage on fire that I rent with a fellow renter whose car and his bike are also in there ??!!!

Plus, I'm afraid to change the oil, worrying about a battery tender causing a fire would keep me awake all winter, I'd never get any sleep !!

Daves, I've got almost 1000 miles, but have not yet taken it in for the service, thought I would do that next spring since it's not quite 1000 miles yet !??

That's probably not cool either huh ??

I can't think about this anymore, I'm stressed, will go home tonight and worry about it then !

CJ




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Bads1
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't stress CJ this is really easy seriously.
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CJ,
Didn't mean to cause stress or worry, reconsider it along the lines of "wear a helmet when you ride please". There are 10's of thousands of battery tenders in use for everything from boats to snowmobiles to bikes. Just ensure you clip the leads on good and don't leave the wires hanging into a trip-zone and you should be fine.

And, actually, this topic would be a good suggestion for a BRAG meeting. Bring in someone's bike and do a minor service on it. Would be informative and educational for newbies to the tool use, and reinforcing to the more experienced members. If you go to that other BRAG meeting tomorrow you could even suggest it for me, or for you. Ya gots my proxy for a service demo night, vote well.

And relax, this is supposed to be fun.
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Whatever
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello Buelligans!

I am excited to say I will be spearheading an effort by Doc's BRAG to provide the first annual Buelligan's Ride and Raft.

This event will be on or near Memorial Day in 2004. Ideally we would hold it on 29 through 31 (Memorial Day).

Here is the poop. Herb's Wild Wolf Inn has raft rides down the Wolf River, Wisconsin's very own Outstanding National Resource Water. Sunday or Saturday floats can be arranged for 1.5 to 8 hour trips. Five dollar per person deposit is required on Holidays.

Rafting charges are made per person and by length of trip. Rental is anywhere from $7.10 to $23.70 per person (plus tax - subject to change). Two to three can fit in one boat (under 400 pounds). Safety gear is provided. No open containers, littering or trespassing allowed.

Nearby are miles and miles of twisty county roads running through the pine and oak forests "up north" over and between some nice glacial tills. If you prefer not to float you may ride and ride and ride without any boredom in sight.

Within the immediate vicinity are several Native American communities with lodging, casinos and meals available... including the Mole Lake Band of Lake Superior Chippewa, the Menominee Nation and Forest County Potawotami.

Herb's is located immediately north of the Menominee Nation on Highway 55. Room rates vary at the Wild Wolf Inn and at Buettner's Motel on the Wolf, based on the number of people and days. Listed currently at $46 for one double bed to $59 for two double beds. Sofa and sleeper are cheaper. River House with three bedrooms also available. Nearby are various US Forest Service campgrounds (cheap!).

If you are interested... please e-mail me at fishguts103@hotmail.com. I need to know which weekend is best for most. Then I can start with arrangements at Herb's.

Before Memorial Day: May 21 through 23rd.
Memorial Day: May 29 through 31st.
After Memorial Day: June 4 through 6th.


Thanks,
Charlotte


edited by Whatever on November 10, 2003
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M2guy
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello!
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