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Bartimus
Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

YOUR making my head hurt !!! ;)
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Charlieboy6649
Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

K. I graduate next Thursday, then I'll be out in Phoenix for two weeks 1st part of July for follow on training.

Let's get together and RIDE!!!!
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Bartimus
Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey guys, wanna beat the heat and go riding?
I just picked up one of these vests, and I have to say, they work like a charm! Granted, we don't have triple digit heat like you guys, but I just went riding this weekend, all day in 98 degree heat, and this thing kept me cool as a cucumber. I wore it under my joe rocket jacket with the vents open, and it lasted about 5 hours before I had to rehydrate it...




It’s one of those 95 degree days and you’re canyon carving through the Gorge, the Palouse or wherever your adventure has taken you. No matter how fast you go, you just can’t seem to cool down and if you have to stop, heaven forbid, you’ll melt down entirely.

Dehydration and heat stroke are two of the most critical dangers in warm weather riding.

In the old days there were a few of us who had the sense to soak a long sleeve tee shirt down and put it on under our jackets. That worked…for about an hour… then we had to pull out at the next rest stop and re-soak the shirt. Pain in the butt.

About 2000 the first mesh clothing was hitting the market. Good stuff if it’s 80 degrees outside, but what about getting hit with 96 degree air at 60 miles an hour? Dry heat like that on your dry skin means you're going to get any moisture you have on the surface pulled out right away and you’re going to be about as hot, or hotter, than if you were sweating away inside a full coverage jacket.

Then someone came up with the cool tie, a neck device you hydrated for 45 minutes with water and put…around your neck. That did okay for keeping your carotid artery from sending over heated blood to your brain lessening your chances of heat stroke, but what about your overheated core? Still overheated.

Finally several years ago mankind stumbled upon the water retaining properties of certain polymers and began to develop vests that you could hydrate with water in about 3 minutes and ride with all day without having to re-hydrate them. Evaporative Cooling Vests were all the rage, but expensive.

I watched ECV’s hit the market from various manufacturers like Joe Rocket, Marsee and others. Joe Rocket’s Sahara was $79 and was designed to fit…Joe Rocket gear of course. Marsee’s unit was $129 and the prices from other manufacturers went up from there.

Someone at TechNiche got the bright idea to take the JR Sahara concept and make it for the rest of us who don’t wear JR gear. Voila – finally an Evaporative Cooling Vest for $30 that works!

In fact we tested a JR Sahara against the TechNiche just to see if there was much difference. The medium size on both has a dry weight of 7.5 ounces. Once hydrated for 3-10 minutes they both bloat up to 5.25 pounds. That’s just under two thirds of a gallon of water that each one saturates. So far they seemed about the same.

Next test. The vests were placed outside and allowed to dry under the same weather conditions of about 60 degrees. The TechNiche actually retained water longer than the JR taking a total of four days to completely dry when not on a human body!

For the record, ECV’s retain more water longer after the first time they’ve been put to use. Be sure you do a dry run with your new ECV before you go for that real hot ride.

An ECV works well with a full coverage jacket, or when used under a mesh vest. Joe Rocket tells customers to only use their Sahara with a mesh jacket. Perhaps they want to encourage another purchase, but it’s more likely they want to keep customers away from the properties of ‘funk’ that occur with wet gear under a full coverage leather or textile jacket. The simple solution for that scenario is to be sure to air dry your gear each night before you ride the next day. Hang it up on a hanger, don’t lay it down crumpled up in the hotel chair. Common sense goes a long way here.

At 7.5 ounces ECV’s pack up light and small and are easy to carry with other gear. If the air should cool down, simply place the ECV into a plastic bag and slip it back into your gear bag. Just remember to take it out at night and let it air dry.

Heat Stroke and Dehydration can ruin your warm weather ride. Don’t let it happen, use a TechNiche Evaporative Cooling Vest. Weighs only 7.5 ounces dry, hydrates in 3 minutes and holds up to two thirds of a gallon of water. This ECV keeps your core cooled down all day. And the best part is it performs better than it’s nearest competitor and is half the price!! Best when used with mesh riding gear or with all vents open on leather or textile jackets. Ride cool with the TechNiche Evaporative Cooling Vest.

You can get them on eBay here's a link to them...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250000950175&ih=015&category=1048&ssPageName=STORE:PROMOBOX:NEWLIST

Happy riding!!! And stay COOL !!!
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Ctyxrnr
Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOW thanks for the info BARTIMUS! i shall purchase one here real soon. when you coming back over to KC,MO.? i was the one in the YAMAHA cold suit when you were here last.

Eric

edit - Hey Bartimus would you mind posting this awsome info on the KCMOB and KCLW side? thanks

(Message edited by ctyxrnr on June 26, 2006)
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Bartimus
Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Eric!

How's things out in KC? I really had a good time out there. My company does have another contract out there at Ft. Riley, not sure when that's going to happen though.
I'm heading east to New England in August, thinking of passing through on our way back.
Have the guys finalized your ride out west yet? Any dates?
I've been going up into Colorado about every other weekend. Man, is it Beulltiful up there! Maybe I can meet you guys somewhere up there when you make your trip out west.
Check out the New Mexico thread to see what I've been up to.
Keep in touch!!! : )

Bart
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Buell
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hey hey hey now - you've been going to CO every other weekend???? WHY haven't you called me?? Are you AVOIDING me??? I will have to get Mona after you!!!
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Bartimus
Posted on Sunday, July 02, 2006 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hehehe,
Mona was with me!
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Fastgirl
Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...and here we thought you were avoiding us!! LOL.
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Buell
Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mona you know I could never avoid you!!!
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Hattori_hanzo
Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Charlieboy...you in town yet?
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Bartimus
Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brian,
are you actually going to roll your bike out and go for a ride????????
Take pictures!
;)
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Hattori_hanzo
Posted on Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh hell no...it's too damn hot!
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Hattori_hanzo
Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Charlie?? Are ya here?
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Bartimus
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

chirp, chirp,
you could almost hear the crickets, except they are all scorched from the sun, LOL

Perhaps Charlieboy melted when he got there?
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Hattori_hanzo
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I started to take my bike out and realized my skin was burning through my mesh jacket. I've got polka dotted sunburn now!
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Warp2
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh we gotta see pictures of this!!
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Bartimus
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it matches his underwear!!!
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So it looks like the AZ scene has pretty much been killed eh?

Interesting. Well... I'm still up for riding anywhere with anyone any time I can...
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Bartimus
Posted on Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Um...
We have a group ride to Colorado this weekend.
3 days of rocky mountain madness. : )
Evenings spent drinking Goldshlager and Jagger, enjoying the frigid 50 degree temps.
We'll post pics for you scorched, desk bound types.

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Charlieboy6649
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey guys, I'm not dead, just working non-stop. Hey Don, was that you on the I-10 W at Litchfield this week? I could have sworn I saw you or your twin!

I'm coming to Phx this Sun for the GP party at the Tilted Kilt. Love to have a beer with yall if you come out...

Charlieboy
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Charlieboy6649
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh yea. Instead of giving me the two weeks training they just sent me straight to work. Kinda like patting me on the arse and saying, "Nice shower, see ya in the game!"

My training has been moved to the first two weeks in August. I'll be sure and let you all know when I get up there K.

Hope to see you all at the Kilt!
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Hattori_hanzo
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know Kobie was thinkin' about going...I'm still up in the air. (What else is new?) What time you gonna be there?





Oh yeah...did I forget to mention that it is effing HOT outside?!
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Warp2
Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep. I'm still thinking about going to the Tilted Kilt. Not sure if I want to ride 40 miles each way in 110+ degree heat or not. There looks to be plenty to do and see there. Here is some info from AZ Trackday.

RedBull US MotoGP Race Party - Presented by Aztrackday.com, RedBull and Ride Now Powersports

Date: Sunday July 23

Time: Starts at 11:00AM ends at 4:00PM

Place: The Tilted Kilt - 660 W. Warner Rd., Tempe, AZ 85284 (just east of I-10 on Warner Rd). Directions:
http://www.tiltedkiltaz.com/tilted-kilt-location.htm

Parking: plenty of premium bike only parking

Tons of Give-aways from: Ride Now Powersports, Red Bull and Aztrackday.com

Food: We will have FREE food and RedBull

We will be screening the brand new movie by the makers of FASTER called: The Doctor, The Tornado and The Kentucky Kid before the race.

Schedule:
11:00 AM - The Doctor, The Tornado and the Kentucky Kid 1:00 PM - AMA Supersport from Laguna Seca 2:00 PM - RedBull US MotoGP from Laguna Seca 3:00 PM - AMA Formula Extreme from Laguna Seca
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Charlieboy6649
Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 02:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well. I didn't make it. After 6 double beam and cokes, a few Jagger bombs, and 3 pitchers of beer, it wouldn't have been a safe drive...even if it was from the night before! I was a hurtin unit this mornin!

Oh yea...GO NICKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Awesome race today.

I'll keep yall posted on my training in Phx...
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Warp2
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For those of you who missed it...


Thanks to everyone who came out to the US MotoGP Party. With over 400 people showing up it was a huge success. A special thanks to our sponsors Ride Now Powersports and RedBull who helped make it possible.
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Bartimus
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey guys, you should have come up to Colorado this weekend!
There's still snow on the mountains to cool you scorched desert dogs down...






the scenery was spectacular, and the weather was overcast and in the low 80's. (remember what those temps feel like?)







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Charlieboy6649
Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm jealous. That's beautiful Bart. Good to see you're still moterin'. Who went with you?

I'll have 0 time to ride except for back and fourth to work unfortunately. Recruiting duty is brutal!
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very sweet Bart... I'm pretty busy myself...

Between maintenance, commuting to Phx 2-3 times a week to see the girl and work... No time left to ride. I don't think I've been on the spars in three weeks...
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Bartimus
Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Charlie,
My GF went with me on her X1, and Murrae and Mabel went with us on their Uly's.
You can see all the pics on the New Mexico thread.

Don,
Sux to Be you, make the GF drive up to see you! While my company hasn't sent me out on the road for awhile, at least I get to take a bike with me when I do go somewhere.
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

She's headed up here this weekend but doesn't want to trust a brand new stator swap... Ahh well. Can't say as I blame her really. Sucks to be stranded.
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