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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, check out this 250cc Chinese dirt tracker from HB Moto.



According to the article, it uses a Chinese copy of the Yamaha 250 cc air-cooled V-twin used in the Virago in the U.S.

More info: http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2009/01/20/chine se-motorcycle-design-curiosities/
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not getting the "W" headers.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The whole bike, including headers is a close copy of Storz's arrangement for the Sportster:

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Chippy
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

a wopping 17 hp at 8k! hang on tight kids!
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4cammer
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bad enough my wheels are made in China (will have that ground off when I have them stripped next winter...) but a Chinese motorcycle? I'd rather walk.
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Eboos
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Bad enough my wheels are made in China (will have that ground off when I have them stripped next winter...) but a Chinese motorcycle? I'd rather walk.



Not to stur up any crap or anything, but have you checked out some of the mini bikes coming out of China? The Pitster Pros are pretty sweet and a hell of a lot of fun.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I'd rather walk.




You will have too given typical Chinese bike reliability. I was going to buy a MadAss, but found out they are now made in China, and ever since they have been having issues with everything.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's the reason I bought a computer that was designed and built in Kentucky with 100% "Made in USA" components.
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Jimduncan69
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i wouldn't let my kids ride on it either. it was probably painted with led paint.

Court, what kind of computer did you get?
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Eboos
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

a wopping 17 hp at 8k! hang on tight kids!




My TTR125, on the best day of it's life, probably doesn't make 17hp, but that bike is so much fun. Horsepower isn't everything.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>Court, what kind of computer did you get?

I was just a fuunin' them . . .hasn't been a computer or a part for one made in the United States since the days Harley-Davidson brakes were made in the USA.

: )
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's more power than my YSR had, and it was one of most fun things I've ever ridden.

Where it gets silly is when they go for the big cruiser look with a 250.
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Barker
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

talk about rip-off.

they have an image of an R1 on there main page??

Chinese R&D stands for Rip-off and duplicate.

(Message edited by ulywife on January 22, 2009)
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Eboos
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Chinese R&D stands for Rip-off and duplicate.




True that. The Chinese brand pitbikes are all CRF50/70 or KLX110 based.
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Barker
Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

how much for that Chinese dumpling? available in the US?
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Ulywife
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 01:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Barker, I had to delete the link you posted above due to a possible virus infection.

Sorry!
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Mtch
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 06:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

quote:

Chinese R&D stands for Rip-off and duplicate.

and no different to what the japanese did
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Danger_dave
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 06:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You have to make allowances for Court - He gets Blue grass and Blue tooth mixed up.
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4cammer
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"quote:
Chinese R&D stands for Rip-off and duplicate.
and no different to what the japanese did"


Yeah, the 1969 CB750 was a blatant rip-off of what? The Kawasaki Mach III was a rip-off of? The Z-1?
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, the 1969 CB750 was a blatant rip-off of what? The Kawasaki Mach III was a rip-off of? The Z-1?

My neighbor in Idaho in 1992 explained this to me. When AMF bought Harley, the Japanese stole all of the American technology. This dude was very serious.

His biggest accomplishment in life was getting his picture in 2 Easy Rider issues. Very proud, he was.

I once asked him about the gay sub-culture in San Fran that dresses in black leather just like him and his buddies and rides Harleys. He never spoke to me again. I guess I'm lucky he didn't just kick my ass.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Japanese did start off making copies of pre-WWII Harleys.

I'd imagine we can expect the Chinese to progress similarly in the next 20 years.

(Message edited by hughlysses on January 22, 2009)
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Bill0351
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just noticed that my Maruchan Instant Lunch was made in the USA!

Ramen noodles!

Irvine California!

WTF?

When did American's start stealing ideas from the Chinese!?!?
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have you been to Irvine? It's more Chinese than caucasian. Not a bad thing, but it is.
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Barker
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Barker, I had to delete the link you posted above due to a possible virus infection."

Dang, that was the manufacture's website!
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Madduck
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Japanese did not copy Harley Davidsons. Harley sent them an entire plant to manufacture undr license for eastern market. I have a friend with one that was exported back to the USA, probably illegally, cool to see those parts with Japanese stampings on em.

Before the war everything they had done was with Harleys permission and encouragement. Getting someone at the Harley plants to pose with the Japanese Harley proved to be difficult as they are not proud of their involvement.
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B00stzx3
Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Harley cooperated with Japan?!?! Jesus. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought you meant something like this ; )
2006 with 4100 miles. Runs like a Rped Ape
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xl1200r.jpg (31.1 k)


OK< I need somebody to send me the link to resize images on an OLD pos winbox runnin windows 95. no matter how many times I resize using Xdat, its still huge.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Harley cooperated with Japan?!?! Jesus. I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. Me 2
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Slicker - http://www.fookes.com/ezthumbs/
Never tested it on Win 95
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Wardan123
Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.motorcyclemuseum.org/classics/bike.asp?id=81



Harley-Davidsons built in Japan? Unthinkable?

Actually, it happened for almost three decades.

It all started in the early 1930s, when the Harley-Davidson Motor Company, like everyone else, was mired in the Great Depression. By 1932, in fact, the Milwaukee factory was running at about 10 percent capacity, and sales were below 4,000 units a year.

One bright spot had been exports, but in Japan, Harley sales were also plummeting, because of an unfavorable exchange rate.

Enter Alfred Rich Child, an independent business agent authorized to represent Harley-Davidson in Japan, China, Korea and Manchuria.

Child figured he could reduce the retail price of a Harley to a Japanese customer if the machines were built in-country. He convinced the home office to sell Harley machine tools and licensing rights to the Japanese Sankyo Seiyako Corporation, which would build Harleys in Japan.

In dire straits, Harley agreed to the deal, and a new, Japanese-built model appeared under the “Rikuo” name. Roughly translated, Rikuo means “Land King,” or “King of Road.”

The deal continued for several years, until Harley-Davidson produced the EL 61 OHV Knucklehead in 1936. Child couldn’t convince Sankyo to buy the licensing rights for the new machine. That disagreement, coupled with the rise of a militaristic government in Japan, put an end to Child’s, and Harley’s, relationship with the Japanese Rikuo company.

Despite that split, Rikuos continued to be built in the Japanese factory. In fact, military versions of the Rikuo were built for the Japanese army during World War II. When civilian production resumed following the war, the motorcycle was limited largely to police and courier use.

As late as the 1950s, though, as many as 2,000 Rikuos were built each year, with the engine having been expanded from the original 750cc to 1,000cc, and then to 1,200cc.

This unrestored 1958 Rikuo RT2, owned by the Barber Vintage Motorsports Museum and on loan to the Motorcycle Hall of Fame Museum at AMA headquarters in Pickerington, Ohio, is an example of the last 750cc version built.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fine, The Bucket seems to work for a bit
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Xl1200r
Posted on Monday, April 06, 2009 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The pic at the top of this thread is a really lousy photoshop.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, May 25, 2009 - 03:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ours is done : D on a budget, the next one will cost an arm and a leg.
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