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Xl1200r
| Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 02:01 pm: |
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Going to look at a 1964 XLCH this afternoon. Anything I should be looking for aside from broken fins or cracked/repaired cases? |
Mikej
| Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 03:04 pm: |
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How original is it? How complete is it? How modified is it? How trashed and beaten is it? How much is it? Where is it? And check the VIN number, there was a lot of creative paperwork happening in the 60's and 70's along with some very well crafted metalwork manipulation. http://www.bikernet.com/sportsters/PageViewer.asp? PageID=249 |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 03:59 pm: |
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Mike - -It is a '64 engine in a '64 frame -Running bike in good shape, plus extra parts (heads, carbs, intakes, air cleaners, fenders, etc) -It has extended forks on it (he has the stock front end), 2-up seat and sissy bar. Engine has a stroker kit in it, probably done up heads and cams as well. -Doesn't look to be abused. The guy owned it for 40 years. -$4500 -I don't think frames had numbers back then... am I wrong? |
Leftcoastal
| Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 08:21 pm: |
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Big twins didn't have frame numbers 'til '69, not sure about the XLs, but doubt if any different. Look at the rear right case for repairs - the corner of the tranny case was a weak spot and would crack or even break off if power shifted too much. It's not uncommon to see early XL motors repaired there (you will see the welds) and if done right will not degrade the bike's value all that much. View area behind and below drive sprocket from below and from rear - a mirror will help. Stroker motors WILL over power this weak spot - I've seen a friend of mine pick half of third gear off of the top of his swingarm where it was lodged against the shattered case! He had it fixed and (with a new trans, of course!) was back on the road in 2 weeks! That was a 68 XLCH. AL |
Citified
| Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 10:19 pm: |
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If the weak spot in the tranny has been repaired well it is actually stronger than original. |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 08:59 am: |
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The flange around the primary is what broke on the cases... something about having a belt primary that broke or something. The are quite a few welds there, but they look done right and it's been like that forever, so I'm not too worried. The stroker kit is mild - using the flywheels from a k-model. The bike looked pretty good overall so I bought it. Hadn't run in weeks and it started on the 4th or 5th kick. I'm pumped. |
Gentleman_jon
| Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 09:14 am: |
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When do we get to see what it looks like?
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Xl1200r
| Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 09:58 am: |
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This is how it looks now...
And I'd like to look as close to this as possible when i'm done...
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Road_thing
| Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 10:23 am: |
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Sweet '64--is my age showing? It looks like a pretty easy restoration from the cosmetic side-front fender, stock length fork tubes, seat, mufflers, paint, gas cap... If it's mechanically sound, I'd say you've got a winner there. rt |
Mikej
| Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 10:24 am: |
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oh yeah |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 10:31 am: |
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Road - my thoughts exactly. The paint on it is pretty nice - black with dark silver ghost flames (hard to see in pics), so I'll probably go for all new sheet metal and sell these tins as a set. She's all there, just needs cleaned up some and a few things replaced. The guy really didn't butcher it up too bad. |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 10:55 am: |
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...and don't worry about your age... this bike is 19 years older than I am, lol. |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 10:16 am: |
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For anyone who's interested... The guy bought the bike 1967 and did the motor work in 1968. Model K flywheels make it a slight stroker, it either has P or PB cams (or a combination), 2" intake valves and some port work, Dytch pistons making for 11.5:1 compression. Solid lifters. I'm just trying to decide on the exhaust - i want something more stock-like, but can't decide if I want the shorty duals or the more classic 2:1 system. I've seen conflicting reports on what would have come on the bike. |
Road_thing
| Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 01:06 pm: |
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Twice pipes are where it's at, Xl... rt |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 01:59 pm: |
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Twice pipes are where it's at, Xl... Agreed. I did some playing around with paint (poor man's photoshop) and the 2:1 just don't look right, so the shorty duals with the tapered mufflers are what I'm going with. |
Mikej
| Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 02:23 pm: |
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Might look okay, but I'd have to see it on the bike first: http://www.sportyspecialties.com/images/display.jp g |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 03:52 pm: |
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I think the 2:1 systems make the bike look longer, which I don't like. |
Mikej
| Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 04:01 pm: |
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Xl1200r
| Posted on Thursday, May 22, 2008 - 03:58 pm: |
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You know, I just finally got what that cropped picture was supposed to be. very funny, lol. |
Xl1200r
| Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 05:32 pm: |
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Got is started (after 2 months of trying) and took it for a ride. Can't wait to get some real work done on this thins. And yeah, she's a leaker, lol.
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