| Author | Message | ||
     Dstrat |
What is everyone elses experience... i expected my xb9s to be a little stronger in the wheelie department...Maybe it is just me, but it brings the front up in first when i let the clutch out but forget about second...rode my buddies ducati yesterday and it would power up in 1st, 2nd, 3rd....is the xb12 much better? I currently run the 12 airbox, techlusion, and stock pipe....thanks for any input.....dave | ||
| Jerseyguy  |
If I punch my 9 at about 4000 in first it will come up nicely and I can ride it to redline. I can do a clutchless shift on my dirt bike (DRZ 400) and keep it up, but I haven't tried it on the XB. I don't really think the tranny would like it. If I back off at 4000 in first and snap it, it will stand straight up and scare the crap out of me, at which time I usually jam in the clutch and tap the back brake. In second I generally have to use the clutch. I have banged it pretty hard into second a couple of times and stood it straight up accidentally. Personally, I like the look of a nice roll on that is gracefully lifted to around 45 degrees or so and carried for a time and then set back down smoothly. I can appreciate the skill involved in a stand up wheelie (I do them on my dirt bike all the time), but I guess I must be getting old because it just looks comical and stupid to me on the street - not to mention the danger to others and the bad image it generates for the non-motorcycle public.... | ||
| Buellman39 |
xb12r D&D techlusion desnorkle K&N cut airbox 1st gear pull out and roll on throttle not hard but just roll on and it carries the front about six inches off the ground for a little. 2nd Gear roll on let off and roll on real hard and stand the bike right up. 3rd gear about 4500 to 5000 rpm pulls your arms out of the sockets.  Chad Rhoads | ||
| Cataract2 |
12 is way better for them. The 9 is ok for 1st gear ones. | ||
| Spatten1  |
My 9 is the same. I have to sit on the passenger seat for power (throttle) wheelies in first, and it seems to gain a lot of power around 4k. Then you hit redline pretty quickly. I'm too much of a wimp to keep shifting. My X1, 1200 engine, has a lot more torque and will crank the front up in first easier at lower RPM, although I still have to sit on the passenger seat. The 4 valve liquid cooled Ducs have way more power than our Buells. Guys who ride both (one owns a Harley shop) have told me that their Ducs come up slowly at low RPM and it's easy to modulate the throttle at the balance point. | ||
| M1combat  |
My 12 will pull the front off the ground with NO preperation what so ever anywhere above 3K. I can get it up shifting from 1st to second and in second it requires clutch. I haven't tried (because it's at 80 MPH) but I think I could get it up from second to third as well. Force pipe Modified airbox Techlusion Yanked the snorkel | ||
| Goldenboy9r  |
"but it brings the front up in first when i let the clutch out but forget about second..." I cant keep mine down in second!! | ||
| Djkaplan  |
I can power the front end up in 2nd with lots of throttle and body english on my M2, but everything has to be exactly right. 9 times out of 10, it isn't and I wind up looking pretty goofy going through all that effort for a 3" wheelie. A full throttle shift into 2nd is a whole different story - you have to be ready cause the front will lift fast or the tire's going to spin. | ||
| M1combat |
Same thing on a 12R, but with the 12R, you don't even have to have any throttle on for the first to second wheelie. It'll do about 8" for about ten feet just on crank inertia at 5000' Elevation. That's with pulling is the clutch for the shift about 1/4-1/2" and letting it out just as you shift. | ||
| Hanses25  |
Believe me if you try a little harder to wheelie on the 9, you will be suprize'd. My friend Duff24 can pull a 60mph stand up wheelie on his 9, and ride it a long way. Roll on wheelies in first is a breeze, 2nd gear pop the clutch at about 4000 Rpm at about 40Mph, Third gear about 50mph 5000 Rpm. 12's got nothing on us 9 riders we just have to be a little braver. | ||
| Olinxb12r  |
I was about to start a thread about this. I have an XB12R, and I can ride first gear wheelies rolling no problem. I'm having some problems finding the balance point though. The people I'm with keep telling me that I'm at about 10 to 11 o'clock and I still end up reving out. I've rode some 2nd gear wheelies using the clutch, but I haven't been able to power them up. My bike is bone stock, so I'm going to look into getting some performance mods to help. I want to learn how to ride standups at speed. Anyone have any experience on the XB at 60 or better with the wheel in the air? I've seen some videos with XBs riding highway wheelies and it pisses me off because I can't do it. (Message edited by olinXB12R on February 15, 2005) | ||
| Buelltroll  |
50-60mph fan the clutch (pull it in about 1/4 of the way until it just starts to catch and spin the motor) let it out and bounce the bike while standing up n hit the gas (all in the same motion) and itll stand right up. Absoluteley love the looks on ppls faces when u pass em on one wheel on the freeway | ||
| M1combat |
Weren't you banned? A couple times... Anyway... I guess the past is the past right? Just for everyones edification... The best wheelie that technique has been proven to produce is about a 4" wheelie... Sorry Donnie, I just have to give you crap about that  . | ||
| Stealthxb  |
Don't poke your playmates M1!!!  | ||
| Dstrat |
thanks for the replies, just changed to mobil 1 75/90 trans fluid, and wow., really frees up the gear box...finally got a little air shifting into second......dave (Message edited by dstrat on February 15, 2005) | ||
| Buelltroll |
Stand up Fan clutch Hit the gas Bounce the bike WALA your wheelieing down the freeway | ||
| Duff24  |
yeah it really doesn't take much to wheelie the 9's, just depends on comfort and skill...  | ||
| Hanses25 |
If you want some wheelie inspiration here is a good site. http://www.harleystunts.com/ | ||
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| Thansesxb9rs  |
The guy in those two posts above can do a stand up wheelie on the 9 at about 2K rpm. Its all in the skill and practice, and it dosen't hurt to be a professional stunter on the Buell and Sportser. Jeff is one of the local Kansas City Stunters. | ||
| Spatten1 |
Some guys can wheelie a moped, but I want a bike that's easy to pull up with power. At 37, with two kids, I'm not ready to start standing on the pegs and rocking backwards while I dump the clutch at 55mph (my ZX9 power wheelied at will at 55, stock). I've tried to get my 9 up in second gear with the clutch, but have been unsuccessful (I do weigh 200, without the gear). Can any of you guys pull it off on a 9 while sitting? If so, any tips? Maybe I'm just not hammering the crap out if the clutch enough? | ||
| Duff24 |
Scott, rev the bike out to about 6.5-7K RPM through first then shift into second and give'er hell!! | ||
| Olinxb12r |
I thought that first pic looked familiar. I used to go up to KC and ride with KCs Most Wanted every once in a while. One of my good friends from college is Johnny Seal's cousin Brandon Noon. I've been on your site before. Got to give you big props for what you can do on that Sporty. Johnny was telling me about the guy stunting on the XB in KC when I saw them in Wisconsin this summer. I live outside of Chicago now, so I don't get to ride in KC anymore. | ||
| Hanses25 |
That guy on the sporty and XB is not any of us. Just a friend that owns a chopper shop here and rides for the Buell stunt team on the side. His name is Jeff Schneider, and lives and works here in Olathe, KS. That link I posted is his stunt site, his chopper site is www.mcworx.com you guys should check it out. Nevertheless all of us have no trouble riding wheelies on our 9's though, for all who think the nine can't pop wheelies are crazy. You just have to try a little harder than the jap bike riders. (Message edited by hanses25 on February 16, 2005) (Message edited by hanses25 on February 16, 2005) | ||
| U4euh  |
Spike, where are you at, we need your fine example of riding wheelies!! | ||
| Thansesxb9rs |
The only difference between wheeling on the 9 from the 12 is you need more balls the first few times you do it. Once you get it down its just comes to you. | ||
| Charlieboy6649  |
Ahhhhh, the elusive wheelie thread. I too wish I could put my high beams in the air, and I know it's possible on my 9 (done it accidently). I weigh my love for my motorcycle against my novice ability and the non-ability to replace it right now; logic has prevailed... I think I'll purchase a $600 POS to practice skills on before I go for it. Either that or the wheelie school (I've heard very good things). Either way, I'll be happy with riding 1st out to redline and enjoying my bike. I pray none of you loop your beautiful XB's learning. | ||
| Djkaplan |
All I have to say about that is I have a very private scar I call the "RM125 4th Gear Wheelie Injury of Shame" | ||
| New12r  |
I practiced alot on dirtbikes growing up, Now I practice stunting on my four wheeler and apply the skills learned to stunting my XB. I too have a fear of crashing the XB so I take it easy for now. I have no trouble getting my XB wheel in the sky, I have yet to get third gear to come up more than a couple inches though and have not gotten the nuts to shift from second to third. I can shift the four wheeler all the way to fifth gear no problem but the gearbox is a lot smoother and the torque doesnt kick the bike when you shift without the clutch. | ||
| Wheelsleaning  |
Changing the exhaust to a Jardine will make a big help. Not much for power reasons but weight. The Jardine can is about 13lbs lighter than a 12 stock can (dk about the 9). Made a world of difference for me on wheelies. |
