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     Tommy_2stroke  |
Here's the link: http://motoring.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2005/02/12/mfy am12.xml I sure won't be trading my XB for an MT, based on that review. In fact, I wouldn't trade my XB12 for ANYTHING, now that I think about it... | ||
| Midknyte |
Wow, that thing really comes off like a lump of poop in that review. | ||
| Glitch  |
Sounds like one of the old reviews for when the XB9R was new. Except of course the weight issue, and plastic bits. I wonder if Pirelli Diablos will help that standing up under braking problem  I want to see one after someone has finished it off with carbon fiber bits and aftermarket exhaust. Not to mention the "Race Kits" Yamaha offers. It'll be interesting to see how it evolves. Me, I'll be keeping the XB. | ||
| Tbs_stunta |
The race kits are pretty cool, it replaces that oval metal air-intake thing with these big gaping carbon fiber mouths and there are purpose-made Akros. I had big hopes for it until I found out the weight. Considering all the flak the Superhawk got over its tank size, the MT's 3.3 gallons is going to hurt it. Even Harley was smart enough to fix that on the V-Rod. (Message edited by tbs_stunta on February 15, 2005) | ||
| Pcmodeler  |
I agree. The review sounds similar to some of the XB reviews in the past. Wonder if the handling issue is related to the rake? I'm really surprised at the weight. I think Cycle World (or one of the other mags) had a big write-up on the MT recently. May have to go back and reread what they had to say. | ||
| Ted  |
5 speed gear box. ha ha ! | ||
| Outrider  |
Competes with the Street Rod (listed as a V-Rod), Not a Buell or any of the other bikes they listed. Am still waiting for Dyno and Road Tests on the MT-01. Roland Brown's First Ride report in MotorCyclist a month or so ago was indeed Underwhelming. Perhaps Yamaha is right and this is one bike that should stay in Europe. LOL | ||
| Xbolt12 |
I found the Motorcyclist review of the MT-01 quite ironic after all the crap they say about Buells. They even get thrilled that there might be a thunderbikes series for MT-01's. WHooHooh, what will they think of next! If you ask me the bike looks a lot like they stole some X1 styling. Problem is though that the Japanese just tacked stuff all over the bike with Oragami looks. You will have to notice that most of the pictures are without the oil tank, shrouds, calipers, fenders and all the other ugly parts that spoil the look. Buell got it right with the xb-keep it simple and don't just tack •••• all over the bike like yamaha is doing. xbolt12 | ||
| Xbolt12 |
BTW, Of all the Japanese bikes I've owned, Yamaha is the best overall in my book, so don't read me wrong, I like Yamaha, just not excited about the MT01 (I also currently own/ride a YZ400F). xbolt12 | ||
| Glitch |
Cool wheels though. They even get thrilled that there might be a thunderbikes series for MT-01's. Wouldn't it be sweet to see a Yamaha get spanked by a Buell! | ||
| Reepicheep  |
Aaack! Am I reading that price right? Nearly 10k pounds! Isn't that like $17k USD or something? A $9000 to my doorstep XB9SX, with $8000 sent to Aaron or Pammy, would make for a staggering overall motorcycle package. | ||
| Glitch |
A $9000 to my doorstep XB9SX, with $8000 sent to Aaron or Pammy... I know what you mean, I have the same dream... Only I send them only $4000 and I use the rest o fund the "Glitch Tours the East Coast"... | ||
| Outrider |
Glitch...Will be even more gratifying to see the MT-01 stomped into the ground by a Street Rod with its puny little engine. LOL | ||
| Spiderman  |
Man I didn't realize how heavy it was! BTW Glitch nice Avatar  | ||
| Gowindward  |
If you look at Yamaha's UK web site they are claiming a new class of bikes. The "Sport Torque" and the MT is the first in the class. I think the bike is interesting but would never purchase one. | ||
| Glitch |
I wanna see it in person. Bikes usually look much better in person. I'd also like to give it a try, so I could see myself how heavy it feels. Too bad it seems to look a lot like the prototype, to turn out to be (or so it would seem) such a slug. Thanks Spidey, got a little "smiley" too.  | ||
| Spiderman |
where's my smiley | ||
| Glitch |
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| Grndskpr  |
Aaack! Am I reading that price right? Nearly 10k pounds! Isn't that like $17k USD or something? While that may seem high, i belive they have a higher tax rate, look at the V-rod price almost 27k, thats almost double what you can get one here for, i suspect it will be less if sold here in the US, i mean the Buell was listed for almost 15K again about double, if you use that almost double formula i would guess the MT would price out really close to a BUell 10999 maybe even a little less, depending how bad they wanted to sell it just a thought R | ||
| Thansesxb9rs  |
It's about 18K to 19K US. I feel sorry for anyone that pays that much for a Jap bike, a year after they buy it it will be worth around 4K. Has anyone noticed how the Buell isn't the only bike with a high depreciation, the Jap bikes lose their value just a quick, especially with the low financing that all the dealerships have been giving out. | ||
| Imonabuss |
Wait, somehow Grndskpr has come up with the MT 01 being nearly the same price as an XB12?! I don't think so. Let's look at the British price numbers again: XB12S 7745, MT-01 9349, VRSCR 14,095. So, since the XB12S is $10,495 in the US, that would make the MT01 $10,495*(9349/7745) = $12,668. So the fastest and best handling bike is by far the cheapest...guess what: WE WIN!!!!!! | ||
| Blake |
Excerpted from the article in question. | ||
| Spatten1  |
The MT was kind of a half-••• effort, using the heavy cruiser non-performance engine in a standard chassis. If Honda would build a sporting standard with the RC51 engine then there would not be the high-mass, low-power compromise that Yamaha went with. | ||
| Reepicheep |
OK, the math still makes one heck of a compelling case. The XB12s spanks it right off the showroom floor, you don't have to touch a thing. If you are willing to do work on the bike, imagine what a $9500 (to your doorstep) 9sx with the $2500 NRHS stage 3 1050 kit installed. For about the same price as the Yammy, you would have a jaw dropping motorcycle. For me? If I work *really* hard for another couple decades, I may get good enough to be able to consistently tap into 85% of the capability of my mostly stock XB9SX. | ||
| Grndskpr |
Wait, somehow Grndskpr has come up with the MT 01 being nearly the same price as an XB12?! I don't think so My bad, i made a poor assumption based on the article, see what i saw was the OTR after the yamaha, and since i didnt see it on the Buell my poor assuption was that the BUell was listed at MSRP and the Yamaha was listed as an OTD price, making it more expensive due to t,t, an l, while you would still have to add that to the BUell My mistake, and as an adendum if Yamaha expects to sell that bike here for 3K more(13,495) there going to take it in the shorts R | ||
| Steveshakeshaft |
For comparison, the UK Government takes 17.5% VAT on the bike, AND 10% importation tax too. I think if you factor for those, UK and US prices could well be much closer than they have been historically. We always get the bad deal over here. Regards Steve steve_s@ukbeg.com www.ukbeg.com |
