| Author | Message | ||
     12bolt  |
 Cat, your crackin me up man! | ||
| Spatten1  |
Yep, its Ozzy. Real picture too. One of my greater accomplishments in life. | ||
| Maxima4xu2 |
i know my bike and i are much faster than my friends in the corners but geting to the corners has me gatting my ••• handed to me *shrug* a sixth gear and about 20hp would take care of that though | ||
| 1313  |
I could tell it was Ozzy, just by the crap-eating, just bit the head off a bat, grin on his face...  1313 | ||
| Anonymous |
Geoffg, Per your original question, it's hogwash, of course. | ||
| Madbandito  |
I just hate it when he (Anonymous) does that. It just spoils the whole here-are-the-rumours-we-love-to-circulate festivities  | ||
| Spatten1 |
It's probably somebody from Buell wanting to discourage anyone from waiting for the not new 150HP model rather than buying what's on the showroom floor today. They can't fool us. | ||
| Fireballsocal |
Hate to throw this up here but I think that 150hp at the rear wheel is entirely possible. The March 05 issue of cycleworld has an article on the formula extreme buell bikes. The 04 race bikes are putting out 135 horsepower. If a race bike can put out that power in 04 and be reliable to complete a race with, 150 can't be that far away. For a race bike anyway. I think a 150hp street buell is a long ways away. I wouldn't expect that kind of power till the water cooled v rod engine makes its way into a buell frame. While the 135hp comes from many different things on the race bike, twin throttle bodies with staggered length intake tubes were credited with 10 horsepower. That would be a nice upgrade for 06. | ||
| M1combat  |
"Buell uses a very primitive engine control system (fouling spark plugs is ridiculous)" Please quantify in ANY way. Bring the tech... You say the Honda guys that worked on your bike blipped the throttle... Then you say that Buell's ECM and logic are crap. STFU. My plugs are the factory plugs w/ ~11K miles and they are still good. Is it the bike or the morons twisting the throttle when the bike isn't warmed up? | ||
| Blake |
I rode a 350 LB, 120 RWHP Buell racing machine on the street once, at near sea-level conditions. Anything more than that would pose a serious risk of death to the average rider. It was impossible to open the throttle in 1st or 2nd gear, and 3rd was tenuous depending on whether or not you first had it pointed in the right direction. There is simply no comparison to similar HP bikes that rev too much higher rpms. A monster HP Buell is much more of a monster than a similarly powered IL4. | ||
| Spatten1 |
What is STFU? My understanding is that there is no MAP sensor or MAF sensor. If I am wrong, please let me know. TPS and RPM is not enough to deliniate the difference between no load and high load when the bike is not in gear. Therefore, too much friggin gas when the throttle is cracked with no load. If there is a MAP or MAF, then I'd like to know why the mixture goes so rich under those conditions. | ||
| Geoffg  |
Thanks, Anonymous, for clearing that up... I really like this site! | ||
| Blake |
My guess would start with "shut the..."  I've seen a few, two I believe, other XB owners posts about plug fowling due to throttle blipping. That's not enough to lead me to believe that it is a major problem. I certainly don't think I'd go so far as to characterize one of the best rated smoothest running sportbike EFI systems ever built as "crap" because of it. I'd probably stop blipping the throttle so much, especially when the engine is cold. If I thought the problem was more pervasive than that, I might try a tad hotter plug, maybe even a scosh hotter plug in the front cylinder, at least until the ambient temperature climbed back to near warm levels. You wouldn't by chance be running the race ECM would you? | ||
| Court |
I can fly | ||
| Tucsonxb9s  |
Dang...Court's flying again. It must be the winter air. Less density?? I dunno...just seems like this time of year Court flys....a lot!  | ||
| Reepicheep  |
I've never been careful about short runs / throttle blips on my 9sx, and have never had a problem fouling plugs. Not saying it can't happen, just saying it's not a given either. | ||
| Spatten1 |
I shouldn't have used the word "blip". If you touch the throttle on my bike at startup it will foul the front plug. Period. My X1 will not start without throttle modulation, so the first thing I did with my XB was foul the @#%$@ plug. Now I know not to touch the throttle until idle has settled in. I really can't blame the Honda tech for cracking the throttle at startup. Many bikes need more air to balance the enrichener on cold start, and I don't think he should have known about this unusual case. | ||
| Glitch  |
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| Nedwreck  |
One word: Rotax Bob | ||
| M1combat |
"Many bikes need more air to balance the enrichener on cold start" Yeah... Bikes with carbs. In any case, if what you say is true, I would suspect another failure/misadjustment that is causing the fouled plugs. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I've messed with the throttle on my XB9sx plenty of times for short runs / right after startup. No problems yet. | ||
| Davegess |
Spatten, something else is wrong. Have a competent and trained Buell techcnician figure it out. Your bike should not do that. The buell EFI may be the best sorted on any motorcycle in the world. It is not as sophisticated as most cars because it does not need the finer emissions control they do. As a side note, the XB is supposed to be clean enough to pass even the new regs without a catalyst. | ||
| Spatten1 |
I called the dealer I bought my XB from and told them it was hitting on the rear cylinder only. The first question they asked me was if I gave it any throttle on startup. They said the newer injected Harleys will foul very easily under the same conditions and he deals with it all of the time. That I why I assumed that it is endemic to the XB. | ||
| Cataract2 |
I've done that, never fouled it... (please don't hit me for that...) Usually, if you start the bike and just open the throttle WFO to rev it and then shut it off quickly then yeah, you might have fouled them. I'll normally start it and let it idle for a minute before doing anything to it. | ||
| Fullpower  |
SIGH.........Like a fine wine, or a classy woman, the Buell motorcycle is not for everyone. | ||
| Rubberdown  |
I've "blipped the throttle" (not hard, maybe up to 2500 rpm) on my 04' 12S many times after a few seconds of idle with no problems. Other times I just push the starter lever and let it idle. No problems here. | ||
| Reepicheep |
That much may be true, I would rather eat broken glass then fire up a cold Buell and rev the hell out of it. I may not always give the "idle till the rocker box is warm" window, but the first mile of my ride is always gentle with low revs. | ||
| Court |
Some bikes, of course, will take longer to warm up.....  | ||
| Road_thing  |
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| Rubberdown |
Reepi, dang, was I "revving the hell out of it"? lol. |
