| Author | Message | ||
     Newxb9er  |
Ok, so I get my Techlusion, and it has Injector connectors with Metal locks on them. I go to pull the injector plugs on the bike, and guess what. Ford injectors?? The plug says Ford! It has different plugs. My bike is a 2003. Does the techlusion have the correct new plugs, and my bike is the old style? Or does the techlusion have the wrong plugs? Thanks for any help. I'm trying to figure out how I should go about this. | ||
| Newxb9er |
DUH... I flipped out for no reason. I just ASSumed that since they were "different" that they didn't fit. Should have made sure, before opening my mouth!! Insert Foot Here! Moving along! | ||
| M1combat  |
Ford and HD have some fairly close ties. Personally, I think if HD builds another engine it'll be with the help of Ford instead of Porch. Maybe then we'll actually get a high performance engine out of the deal eh?  | ||
| Cataract2 |
Hmmmm V8 Buell? | ||
| Aldaytona  |
If Ford had the brain power of Weissach, Harley-Davidson would have gone to them instead of PORSCHE. | ||
| Firebolt020283  |
if the go to ford for help in building an engine our bikes would always be broke. | ||
| Tucsonxb9s  |
Man Donald...don't open that can of worms. According to the general public our bikes are ALWAYS broke anyways! If you get this thread going on a GM vs. Ford vs. anyone else tilt, it could get ugly.  | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
oh yea i should have known better cuz we have been there before ill shut up now (but its still my thoughts) | ||
| Whistle |
Yeah but think how cool the name of our bikes would be!!! I've got a 2006 FordHarleyPorscheDavidsonBuell XB13SXLT150Carrera4!!!  | ||
| M1combat |
Sorry... Yeah, I know it's "Porsche" but I like to ruffle feathers where I can . I just can't fathom why they haven't fixed the "Porsche Sashay" or the trailing throttle snap oversteer in their weisach 5-link suspension setups. Porsches have so much bump-steer at the upper end of their front suspension travel they are actually quite dangerous to take to their limits for the first time if you don't know what you're getting into. I suppose they are quite a bit like a Buell though... They uncover your bad driving habits very quickly, but handle VERY well if you have your shtuff together. Just be sure to modulate throttle input mid corner VERY carefully, and DO NOT add/remove steering input if you're near the limit on the brakes (and pray the bank angle of the track doesn't change abruptly while you're at it)... It's a lot like the Windows/Linux/Macintosh debate with me... I'm a Linux guy at heart, I see some benefit to Windows and Mac's just aren't my thing. I'm a ford guy at heart, I see some benefits to Ferrari's and Porsches just aren't my thing. That's only slightly strange because Ferrari is the only company that has ever really given the finger to Ford. Granted, Henry then grabbed it, ripped it off of Enzo's hand and stuffed it down his throat until Ford got bored with racing and told Ferrari they could have their race tracks back... BTW... The GT, The '05 Mustang and the "Cammer" engine will be legendary. You heard it here first folks . | ||
| New12r  |
If ford build any engine for HD I will sell my Buell and go bikeless. | ||
| Maxima4xu2 |
well from what i see we all want high revs and bullet proof reliability not to mention good looks and reasonable maitenance hell why doesnt harley go to TOYOTA then their engines do all of the above i used to be a ford guy till i had a brand new truck (less than 10,000) blow up and they wouldnt fix it (buggers) so i went to toyota and have never had a problem scince 350,000 on my hot rod mr2 (original engine) 565,000 was on my turbo (heavily modded) supra before i sold it and now i have a tacoma with 150,000 and still runs as good if not beter than stock! (all i do is pour oil in it you know what i mean) but anyways toyota would be the way to go they know how to make massive amounts of power from a small engine anyways just my 2 cents are you listening buell & harley (aka honkey) want to get rid of the busted ••• bike image go to toyota to build your next "hot rod" engine | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
i think im with new12r on this one. | ||
| Maxima4xu2 |
wow i know im going to hear about this one :P | ||
| Dasbuell  |
I dunno... Maybe they shoulda went to Yugo for engine technology... I love my Yugo!!! There is nothing on the road like it... I am so glad I traded in my Pinto for that beautiful Yugo! | ||
| Glitch  |
Dang Maxima, I'm wonderin' how you ended up with a Buell at all with that attitude. I've had most every brand of cage, and they all suck. | ||
| Spatten1 |
Don't start talking about Toyota reliability and power. We ride 'Merican Arn. If I wanted reliabilty and power in a bike I have four brands to choose from. Why would anyone buy a vehicle based on crap like reliability and power anyway? You are a friggin radical, man. | ||
| M1combat |
"I've had most every brand of cage, and they all suck." Bingo... You are correct in you're comments about Toyota. They are VERY good at the car game (My second favorite manufacturer actually). I'll own a Supra one of these days... If you ask me, I think Toyota is playing the F1 game right now to develop technology to get into the motorcycle business. In any case, none of it changes the FACT that Ford is the winningest company in the history of motor-sport. Ferrari JUST caught Ford for overall wins in F1 and Ford hasn't even played the game EVERY year like Ferrari has. Ford has more wins in NASCAR too just in case you were wondering. They also Dominate Rally every time they decide to. Drag racing? Look up John Force (I know they all run a HEMI style engine, but hemi is a technology, not a brands IP). | ||
| Court |
I'm not in for the debate but will say my 1997 Ford, now with 145,000, has never missed a lick. We're also on our 4th (the last 3 have been identical) Saab, same drill. Saab dealer is nothing but spectacular. I also took a bone stock 1995 Buell and rode it leisurely through 37 states for 31 days. Fuel, oil and Jerry Johnson slapped on (not really needed) set of tires. Also got in the habit of leaving Topeka, KS and riding non-stop to places like South Carolina, Pocono, DFW and zooming back in time for work on Monday. Am I really this lucky? Am I that lucky? | ||
| Tucsonxb9s |
I'd buy a lotto ticket if I were you!  | ||
| Maxima4xu2 |
but put the ticket in my name ok !!!!! and yeah yeah yeah i have heard the rummors about toyota getting into the bike market for awhile now if they do ill own one (well as a second to the 12r  ) | ||
| Cataract2 |
1994 2.3 Ford Ranger. 143,000 miles and only the alternator replaced. Still runs strong. Friend of mine has a 1991 F150 with 210,000 miles on it with no problems. Only replaced 2 sensors. Still runs strong without burning a drop. | ||
| Spatten1 |
Yeah, I actually drive a Tundra and LOVE IT. My X1 was a total POS, and I was scared to go more than 100 miles from home. I'm really happy about the XB's reliability record. I really wanted an American bike, but was sick of the compromises being too high. I'm glad they really did their homework this time. Would it really kill Harley to go to Yamaha (or a like mfg.) for a performance engine, hell, Ford did for the Taurus high performance model in the 90's. KTM has some bitch'n V-twins right now, and Rotax will mfg. for anyone. I guess the real question is why can't they do it in-house in Wisconsin? | ||
| M1combat |
They can... Why do people ASSUME that just because they DON'T means they CAN'T. The fact is, they don't WANT to. The Buell engine does EXACTLY what they WANT it to do. That said though... I'm sure that with all the info they are getting racing FX, thay'll have something around 120RWHP for us in the future. | ||
| 12bolt  |
If they could they would have! And then we would all be riding 120hp bikes instead of the sub 100hp we have now. I'm sure that if they could have put together a 120hp engine in house with the same reliability they wouldn't have said "Nah we don't like more power"? | ||
| Spatten1 |
I'm with 12bolt on this one. Harley has not been focused on performance engines in 35 years. The culture is not there. G-d bless Buell for squeezing what they have out of these things. My understanding is that it takes about $250MM to develop a new engine platform. Amortize that over the Buell line and they'll be paying us to ride them. Of course, some might say that sales would go through the roof if the engines were competitive.... | ||
| Spatten1 |
One more thought: While I always used to mock the intangible "feel" of the Harley engine, I love it on the Buell. I wouldn't trade it for modern performance levels. That said, selling in big numbers would necessitate a new engine design. | ||
| Newxb9er |
Did I start this?? Well, I'm as Blue Blooded as they come, and love Fords. I have first hand knowledge of Ford Trucks. Tough to say the least. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there saying the same about their manufacturer. Truth be told, all are good in more ways than one. If they were crap, they wouldn't be in business. I love my Buell, and if I wanted some high HP bike, I would have bought a Liter bike. I'm in no way expecting HD and Buell to build a new motor. If they did, great. | ||
| M1combat |
"I'm sure that if they could have put together a 120hp engine in house with the same reliability they wouldn't have said "Nah we don't like more power"?" You forgot one tiny little portion of the manufacturing game... The price. They could build 200HP and more (literally) bikes and sell them to us. Ask Aaron what it would cost though. "I wouldn't trade it for modern performance levels. " ... You don't need to trade it... You have it. Maybe it's just me, but the ONLY thing that has EVER passed me on my favorite section of road was a "ratty assed" old "dirtbike". He passed me so fast all I could think was "DAMN... That MF'er had BETTER not have knobbies on that thing!" I have to admit, I wan't really getting on it at the time, and when I did pick it up, I kept him in sight for the most part, but still... A DIRTBIKE!!! I've never had ANYTHING with more cylinders than me pass me on a twisty road (A Porch 911T tried once, he actually got the closest). I've watched numerous literbikes get all sorts of squirly in front of me (when I wasn't really even pushing it) and the rider will get scared and wave the Buell by. You can have your straight stretches all you want (where power (and police) is a factor). I'll stick to the tight twisties where it takes a pair to go fast and the choppers can't even guess at my speed . I don't mean to offend anyone, but if you can't make a Buell keep up with an Inline 600... Well, it's not the Buell. | ||
| Spatten1 |
The article posted in the other thread made it clear how good the XB corner speed was, but said it came out of corners like it was in neutral compared to other bikes. |
