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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok, I was wondering what oil filters will fit the XB? Does anyone know if the Mobil 1 ones will fit, STP ones, K&N ones, heck even the Wal Mart ones. If anyone knows please post up to help or if there's a link on a Buell site for this info.
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Wyckedflesh


Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All of thee above offer filters for the XB. The Walmart filter you do need to be careful of. SOME* of them are supplied by Fram. Otherwise the Walmart ones are the same as the factory oilfilter.


(*SOME that is based on Keith taking his Walmart filter apart and it being like the factory, and me taking my first walmart filter apart and having it be like the fram. A few others have had the same results as Keith.)
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Chainsaw


Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bosch 3311
Mobil 1 M1-103
K&N HP 100B
STP 4967
AC Delco UPF 1233

Wal-Mart also carries one for $1.97, but it's the only filter I have ever accidentally crushed with a filter wrench, so I won't use that one again. I'm currently using the STP filter from AutoZone. It was less than $4
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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks chainsaw!!! That helps a lot. Where'd you get the info from?
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Fullpower


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what would lead one to trust the functionality of a $1.97 oil filter? would you shop for tires or brake rotor bolts at walmart? what if you were offered dot 4 brake fluid in a discount store branded bottle for 69 cents? would you run it in your motorcycle?
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Bigharley38
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 06:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just one for the board. What is wrong with the Fram oil filers? Any problems? I plan on using them do to no other filters are in Germany unless I go to the dealer and pay a arm/leg for a Buell oil filter.
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Daves


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd use the Buell filter.
Unless you ride about 50,000 miles per year, the difference in price won't amount to much per year.
Let's just use a rider that puts on 10,000 miles per year.
Even if you change your oil every 2000 miles, that's 5 filters per year.
3.00 difference in price between good quality other brand filter.
15.00 per year.
If you follow the service intervals of every 5000(I don't) that's only 6.00 per year difference.
If you ride your Buell 5000 miles per year, that's 6.00 or so per year difference
Just thought I'd point that out. Some make it sound like you're going to save 1000s of dollars!
I understand if you don't have a local dealer and things like that.

Dave
I sell Buell filters for 6.26
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Bigharley38
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Great point Dave. On your site I don't see parts on line. I guess I have to just E-mail you. PS: Do you have the American flag decal kit for the Buell?
Thanks
shawn
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Daves


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We don't offer online ordering.
I prefer the more personal way of doing business by having you call me on the toll free number.
1-866-757-1651
ask for Dave in the sales dept.
You can also email me at daves@h-dappleton.com
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Wyckedflesh


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Fram oil filter uses a "Celluloid" aka cardboard endcap at the bottom portion of the filter that has shown itself to come apart while in service and block oil lines and galleys.
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Chainsaw


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what would lead one to trust the functionality of a $1.97 oil filter?

The Wal-Mart filter is made by Champion Labs, the same place that makes the OEM filters.
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Chainsaw


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where'd you get the info from?

Believe it or not, this subject has come up before! : )
I wrote down the numbers from previous posts and keep them with my Service Manual.
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Gowindward


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The K & N filter is HP-1003 and their web site now references a KN-177 for the XB series.

The HP-1003 number cross references to the Fram number and Mobil number.
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Fullpower


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

chainsaw beware that walmart MAY have ONCE used the particular vendor referenced as oem, but that does NOT mean that the disount filter was built to the same specification, nor that it had anything remotely resembling a quality control program associated. also you should be aware that walmart can change suppliers as quick as you or i change our underwear. if they sell for $1.97 there is not real likely to be a great reserve of quality built in to the product.
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Metalstorm


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I won't tell ya which filter you use cause it's your call but me personally; I wouldn't use cheap products on my bike no more than I would buy cheap dog food for my furry not so little bundle of joy who I hope one day wakes up and realizes that he is indeed a dog. The extra cost of good high quality proven filters is worth it in my oppinion. It's kinda like "you are what you eat". A bike is only as good as the sum of it's parts.
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Reepicheep


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I looked at a couple wal marts here in Ohio, and the wal mart labelled filters I saw looked *identical* to fram filters, and did not appear as well made as stock.

I got some aftermarket purelator (pure-one) filters just to have on the shelf in a pinch, but in general I try and buy the buell part, just as an excuse to drop by my dealer and say "hi". Premium non buell filters are not that much cheaper then the Buell part.
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Gowindward


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Reep...You are right. The K & N filter around here goes for almost $10.00
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Racertroy


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave,

I see your dollars and cents analysis...has anyone any data on which is the best filtering/flowing filter?

Thanks,

--ts
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Wheelsleaning


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well I just put a CarQuest filter on my XB12 and noticed a slight leak coming from the oil cooler connection just in front of the filter. Don't know what caused it yet...
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Buellisti
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's sort of normal. Reinstall the line with fresh teflon tape.
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Wheelsleaning


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Normal? On a 2004? hm ok, makes me feel better, I think.
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Al_lighton


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just got a lot of Buell stock filters in a dealer buyout. So, here's a badweb special. Order 9029 here, mention badweb in the comments section of the order form, and I'll sell them for $5.00 each. Limit 4 per person. I got a bunch of other brand spankin new XB parts that I normally wouldn't stock (XB R high and low bean headlight assemblies, front brake master cylinder, voltage regulator, black chin spoiler center, stock air filters, lots of other stuff). If you need anything I just mentioned, ping me, I'll give you a screamin deal.

Al
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Odie


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm with Dave on this. What you save isn't worth what you may have happen to your baby. I buy 2 or 3 Buell filters at a time at the dealer and keep the receipts in my "Warranty/Maintenance" binder so if I ever need proof, as the owners manual says, of all of my owner performed maintenance it is in one, handy location.

Al, Dang! Now I really have to order some stuff from you! I've been writing down part numbers that I need/want from you but now with this dealer buy out and a good deal on filters I'm gonna have to do it sooner than later. Thanks........I think......Odie
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Dcmortalcoil
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Warranty can't be voided simply because a different brand of oil filter is used. There have been many discussion on this board about this topic.
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Odie


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I understand that but it is one less, cheaply prevented issue I might have with the dealer. Plus I think white filters look like @55....
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Buellisti
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Your leak looks a bit more severe than mine. Many people reported leaks at the oil cooler fittings. I had those leaks and similar leaks on both feed line fittings near the oil filter. When I did my first oil change I reinstalled all the fittings with fresh teflon tape and I have nearly 9000 leak free miles. Make sure you use a flare wrench so you don't damage the fittings.
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Wheelsleaning


Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It may have been caused when I was fighting with the original oil filter. Possible cause...
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Buellisti
Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How did you remove the oil filter?
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Glitch


Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How did you remove the oil filter?
By turning it anti-clockwise. If it won't come off just using you hand, use a soft, band wrench, a small one. Shouldn't be on there too tight.
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Wheelsleaning


Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It WAS on tight. And the fact thats a tight spot. Heading to Irving TX for the weekend, so I'll have to fix it Tuesday. And I'll be dynoing after the Techlusion and Jardine install...
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