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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok, I've got the race kit on my bike, XB9SX. (Muffler, Race ECM, and filter)

I've been thinking about getting the TFI unit for my bike to sort out the mid range on it. The race kit woke up the upper range of the bike to make it pull like crazy but I've found that from 2K-3K it stutters a bit and from 3K-4K it kinda lacks in pulling power. I want to know if the TFI can clear those areas up.
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Tatsu
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think so.. but that's just my humble opinion.
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone else on here use the TFI device with the 9's?
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Ingemar


Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 02:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a xb9r.

And to answer your question, Yes I believe so, especially if you completely open up the airbox like Odie, myself, Reepicheep and others have done.

The bike pulls hard above 5000rpm, but (at least in my case) the effect was emphasized by the dip in pulling power at 3000-4000 rpm.

Keep in mind though that the race can does hurt bottom end power and the tfi won't fix that.
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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Been thinking about getting a Drummer down the road soon.
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Jerseyguy


Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cat - I've got the Drummer, TFI, race ECM, K&N, & opened up airbox and I think its the winning ticket for a stage 1 modification on a 9. It pulls really hard from the bottom right up to the red line with no stumbles, misses or torque dips.
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Cataract2
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like a good setup jersetguy. I'll keep that in mind. First thing I'm going to try is the TFI with the race kit to see what I can get.
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Kaese


Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Same mods as Jerseyguy, and I can attest to his statement.
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Tatsu
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the same set up as Jerseyguy on a 12R, and concur this setup is rock solid.
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Glitch


Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm sold.
I'm sold.
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Ingemar


Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine is surging a little at around 5000 rpm.

I'm getting good help from Dobeck to correct it. I am convinced it's a minor issue and will be solved by the weekend.
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Tatsu
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey I got a question? If you are opening your airbox up that much to where it's just a filter. Could you use that filter setup that is on the "FAST" velocity system clamped right to the stock stack?
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Glitch


Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't think so.
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Ingemar


Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The new stack with the fast system has a fitting for the filter. The rubber stack on a stock bike doesn't. There would be no way to secure the filter to.
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Reepicheep


Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The stock setup has a soft rubber cone. To clamp a filter directly to the stack, you would need some sort of extension, which I presume would have to be tuned carefully for length and shape.
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Briz31
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Question for the masses:
I'm looking into adding these to my 03 XB9s.
Jardine RT One can.
Techlusion kit.
K&N Filter. (pull that darn snorkle out)
12 airbox.

Using the Techlusion kit, you don't have to run the RACE ECM ?? Y/N .. Are there any advantages or disadvantages in changing the ECM.
As I understand the Techlusion kit operates using the stock ecm..

Jardine RT one, at that $$ it's quite nice, I was considering a D&D but to land one in Australia it's going to be close to $1000, for that I can do all the above (listed).

Does anyone have any comments regarding the JARDINE ?..

Also, what is the going rate for a RACE ECM module in the US ?...

Cheers guys.
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Trenchtractor


Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The TFi was designed for the stock ECM.

A couple of guys are trying it out on the race ECM and are getting gains over the race ECM alone. No one has done the back to back testing of all 4 set-ups yet...

At this stage, I'd say stick with the Stock ECM, you can always upgrade to a race ECM later...

The Pro Series ECM's go for around $210USD RRP...
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Briz31
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the help (trenchtractor)

Does anyone out there in "buell-land" have a link to a sound or video file on the Jardine rt one pipe...
I have located a D+D, Force, Stock & Pro (buell) sound/video files, but WANTING TO HEAR A JARDINE...

Can anyone help...
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Newxb9er
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Briz-Do you have the link to the D&D?
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