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Hulley
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anyone had problems with their xb frames cracking? I'm looking to buy an xb9r soon and a buddy at work is trying to talk me out of the bike! he says frames are a big problem and they still suffer from reliablity issues. PLEASE tell me he is full of crap. I havent ridden one yet and I'm in love with this bike already!
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Hkwan
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Another classic "buddy at work" experience, huh? Has your buddy even ridden a XB Buell for more than couple of miles or even seen one ever?

Never heard of XB frame cracking issue in all these Buell and motorcycle boards that I have subscribed to.
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Buells Rule!
(Dyna in disguise)



Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Your "buddy" is full of 5hit.
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Hulley
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks guys! he said he was ready to buy one, then changed his mind from the "stories" he's heard! he did admit he's never ridden one. I'm buying a BUELL BABY!!!
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Rsh
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There was a picture of a Kawi ZX 10R with a cracked frame floating around on the net, maybe your "buddy" is confused.
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Glitch


Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

30thousand smiles and I see no frame issues other than it doesn't hold more gas.
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Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Zero occurrences. Ever.
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Wyckedflesh


Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only cracked frame I know of was due to operator error into the back of a car...but I think if you can avoid doing that at 50+ you won't have any problems.
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Vegasbueller


Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the guy is smoking crack. Amazing what people that are jealous of Buell's engineering marvels will say.
Buy the Buell, ride and be happy young man!
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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That only thing I've heard of cracking is the ZX10R frame. That's the pic that's been floating around on the net. Your buddy needs to check his sources. I for one have never heard of a Buell from cracking. I have of a Kawi.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In a magazine article (if I find it I'll post the link) their test XB did suffer a cracked engine mount, but that is a whole different story than the frame cracking. Obviously not a widespread problem or we'd be hearing a whole lot more about it.
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M1combat


Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've heard of only a couple engine mounts breaking. I'm pretty sure it's from slamming the front down after wheelies. I've jumped mine multiple times and had no trouble with it at all.
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Joele
Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Of all things, the frame cracking?!?! The frame is about the beefiest I've ever seen on any bike.
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Trenchtractor


Posted on Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

M1, you been stadiumX'ing your bike???

And the ZX10R's had a recall for the front wheels breaking, too... Seems the Jap bikes might be getting too light for their own good...
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M1combat


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not exactly : ). I have a wash in the road leading to my house. It's paved and about 25' wide and about 5' deep. If I hit it at about 65-70 I can get about 10-14" of air and about 10' or so distance. No broken front motor mount here...
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Trenchtractor


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

lol... When I first posted the pics of the chain conversion, Opto commented I'd have him looking for a 180 section knobby... ; )
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Pilot
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

YOUR BUDDY IS FULL OF DINGO DUNG
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Charlieboy6649


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have to agree with Joele...

Of all the things a nimwit could talk 5hit about, the FRAME!?

NIMROD. I have no education in engineering but my eyes, some common sense, and a 2 year history on this board tell me that the frame is the last thing I'd worry about!

OH, a hem. Enjoy your Buell. I DO!
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Barkandbite


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 03:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only thing resembling crack is the stuff your friend is smoking.

The XB's are rock solid.

Chris
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Court
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 04:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No XB frame has ever cracked.

Please hand that to your buddy. If he can not understand those 6 words have him call me.

Tell him that you've elected to purchase what is arguably the most reliable motorcycle available in the world at this time.

Congratulations. Get on the Buell and ride as far from your "old" friends as possible.

: )

Court
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Hulley
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you guys kick ! thanks for the many responses, I have to spend my money wisely and he kinda spooked me for a moment. I actually feel kinda silly for even listening to him.
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Surveyor


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you really want a bike with a frame that cracks try a Hyabusa I believe they do it all the time.....only the subframe though. You could also try an original K1 750 Honda, the frame doesn't actually crack it just feels that way.
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Mikej


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only cracked XB frames I've seen pictures of were the results of hitting deer, cars, trucks, trees, fence posts, stuff like that. I'm sure the factory "cracked" a few on purpose in their testing, but that's a good thing.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The factory TRIED over 400 times in confirming that a Mexican import was as good as thought.

I doubt you've seen one cracked as a result of hitting a deer. I'd be willing to bet that what you saw was a neatly separated honeycomb looking head section.

What the XB does in an accident is no accident.

From the first moment The Red Headed Astronaut launched that M-2 toward the sky in front of the Showa engineers at the secret test track, the less educated among us came to have an elevated respect of the role science, in concert with a Berkley education, plays in compensating for our own lack of skill/stupidity.

I doubt you could EVER (not seldom, but EVER) crack an XB frame in service.

Just my personal opinion...

Court
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Mikej


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Cracked in half as designed to do" is precisely what I was referring to.
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Brucelee
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Never heard of even one cracking!
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Court
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Never heard of even one cracking!

In development or service.
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Blublak


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmmm.. To the best of my knowledge..
Honda Gold Wings had a problem with frames cracking from lousy welds (the good news is all those bikes effected got a nice cosmetic fix). And I've heard about the Kawi and 'Busa problems as well.

I believe that's about it. Oh, and somewhere (I think it was here) I saw a picture of an XB that had been in a high speed altercation with a fire hydrant. The frame did not crack. The fuel did not spill. The engine went MIA, the forks separated from the triple tree, the bike was a total loss.. But the frame only dented.

As Anon. said. It's NEVER happened.

Now, have your 'friend' sit down, shut up, and eat a baloney sandwich while you take your new Buell out and get 'Grin-itous'!

Later,
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Court
Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One mo time. . . . "what a Buell does in an accident, is NO accident"
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M1combat


Posted on Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BTW Hulley, anyone that posts as "anonymous" and gets away with it... WILL know what they're talking about.

There's a decent chance that Anony's last name is mmmmmmm, and almost a 100% chance that they at least mmmmmmm together.


custodial message: Sorry M1, had to cover your mouth for a second there.

(Message edited by tripper on December 30, 2004)
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