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Archive through December 14, 2004Mikej30 12-14-04  10:53 am
         

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Glitch


Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

True enough.
Too bad though.

I'm mistreating a product and it breaks, think I'll sue.

Wonderful
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Misato


Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I never do wheelies either. well, maybe one.


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Buells Rule!
(Dyna in disguise)



Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wheelies are cool, but there is no way in hell im doing any standup ones.
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Wyckedflesh


Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

New12r I live in those style boots. Currently I have the Rocky brand full leather Stealths that are 1 year old. They were the boots I was wearing when I layed the bike over and I have full faith in them. I have been wearing these style of boots for the last 10 years and have found them to be very supportive. The Magnum Stealths I had were cut off by the ER techs when I had my car accident. Concidering how much damage was done to the footwell are of my car, they raised my faith even more. I am looking for a new pair to replace the ones I have. Well not replace, just look nice and shiney and smooth again as these are well worn with alot of miles on them.
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Maxima4xu2
Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

anyone remember the chick who sued mcdonalds for hot coffee?????? so in this society weather your using it wrong or not it is the manufacturers fault heheheh i dont think dump the cup of coffee in your lap is using it properly now is it???
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 04:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>sueing the chit outta the manufacturer and getting a new xb ----- priceless

Right you are...as in ZERO.

The entire "fitness for purpose" doctrine has been well tested in previous cases, not just for "fitness" but for the "purpose" component as well.

Anytime you operate a vehicle outside it's intended use, you are a test pilot.

Driving your Ford off a cliff does not enable one to sue Ford for lack of airworthiness.

Court
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New12r


Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 07:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think sueing a manuf. for your own stupidity should be a felony. I also dont think the manufacturer should have to post labels telling you that "sticking your hand in this table saw may cut off your hand." If you are that stupid to put your hand in a table saw then you get what you deserve, and yes that means if my pegs break while I am doing one of these stand up wheelies then it is my fault and I will claim all responsibility. The pegs are not designed to be ridden on in a "standing wheelie" position, If they break while I am doing said wheelie well I guess I am going to be lighter in my wallet. Sorry for the rant but I swear people are getting dumber every year.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>Sorry for the rant but I swear people are getting dumber every year.

That may be a component of it, for sure. But, also take into consideration that information about "stupid people tricks" travels faster and, in the interest of ratings, gets morphed from fact to amazing by the talking heads.

Stupid people have been with us since the day the first caveman caught his groin cloth on fire. Motorcycles, like handguns and motorcycles bite when used for other than their intended purpose or with insufficient skill.

Handguns are the topic of many of the legal tests in this area and I am irrevocable convinced that they suffer from their size and the simple lack of physical space that prevents adding the engraving "DO NOT POINT AT SELF AND OPERATE".

Motorcycles have some interesting stickers, but ladders take the cake.

Malicious prosecution, from a strictly legal perspective, is a much easier subject to kick around in conversation than to actually pursue.

One of the conditions precedent, for instance, to successfully mounting a malicious prosecution case (don't ask me how I know) is a favorable verdict in the underlying action. In other words you have to win first to go after someone for malicious prosecution. If for instance, I were to sue a mfg for $1M and settle for $1, it is considered a resolution favorable to them.

Kind of a twist off the old contributory negligence stuff. See also, "dead docketing" if you happen to be from GA.

Don't get me started on legal writing.....
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Lomax


Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I still think that foot pegs that "If you stand on them they may break" is scary. I am glad my dirt bikes, BMW and Harleys don't have this problem. I think I will take some 2" steel rods and weld them to the frame so they will not break off if I happen to stand up on them going over the tracks or stretching my back.
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Maxima4xu2
Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what about when you ride aggresively???? (i know spelling) i mean if you are shifting your weight correclty you are using your legs and only your legs to shift from side to side henceforth needing to have the pegs able to support all of your weight beeing i weigh 240lbs this scares the crap outa me
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Newxb9er
Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think everyone is getting too worried here. If you are standing on the things(I'm no physicist), I would almost bet the force on those pegs are magnitudes greater than any force you could apply while shifting weight from side to side. The manufacturer tests things up to and exceeding the weight limit specified on the bike. This is how they determine what the limit of the bike is. If the limit is 300lbs, then I'm sure they have introduced a margin of error. I'm sure the pegs would be able to handle a rider w/gear up to the limit of the bike. I don't see why everyone is worried that the pegs are going to snap. Standing up going over a railroad track/obsticle for a brief period of time is a lot different than riding a wheelie 6 blocks down the street standing on them(At a different angle I might add). "At Your Own Risk". Just my nickel worth.
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Flick


Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, Misato, when that wheelie picture was taken, where were you? It looks like a very familiar bit of blacktop in British Columbia...I'm guessing just after getting off the Balfour ferry heading for Creston?
I could be way off, but it sure looks familiar?????
Or, maybe a stretch of road just shortly before you come to the Faquier ferry??????
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Dirtridr


Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whats the possibilities of a 12R doing 60mph wheelies, you know like the jap bikes?
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Newxb9er
Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would guess you could do it. Doing the "Roll-On" wheelie at 45mph isn't far from 60, as long as you have the skill to shift into second and can hold the balance point. The inlines have the Rev's to roll on in 2nd and get to 60 fast enough. Check out www.uponone.com for a lot of stuff I don't have the guts to try!
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Buells Rule!
(Dyna in disguise)



Posted on Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Most of my wheelies start about 40 mph & I will usually carry it until I hit between 80-85mph.
Have done a couple while upshifting between 120 & 130 but those are spooky & I really dont like em at all.
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Newxb9er
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2004 - 02:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would say!
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Court
Posted on Thursday, December 16, 2004 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>The manufacturer tests things up to and exceeding the weight limit specified on the bike.

So far beyond, you can't imagine.

Tom Anglim....hurry back from Iraq!

: )
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Static
Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm 260 lbs. I stand up on my 9r alot, I shift my weight around alot , I've even jumped this thing and the only time I ever broke a peg is when I dragged the tail light and it dropped onto its left side from 12 O'clock. These pegs are pretty tough. ( like the rest of the bike )
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Newxb9er
Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nuff Said!!
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