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Ibuell
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey guys,

I need help finding the front isolator for a 2005 XB12R. Any help would be appreciated.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get in line overhere,
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/792810.html?1472747998
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you chasing a vibration? Or is the bike really down?

I think I have one left that I pulled chasing down vibrations. High milage, but the vibration didn't change when I replaced it with new, and not visibly torn up.

I'm not really looking to sell it, but if somebody has a flat out torn isolator and is looking at their bike being down until January, I'll be happy to loan them my spare until their new one comes in. Just pay shipping and promise to return it.

Hopefully Harley will have the contractor build a billion of the things and we will be drowning in them for the next decade. Or we find the supplier and make our own deal. Or somebody with some real engineering skills and experience tools up to refurbish old ones.

Don't throw away your old ones folks... we may need those cores someday for rebuilds.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Barry controls made the old tuber ones.
Any idea who makes the XB ones?
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The front and rear XB isolators are made by Barry Controls.

(Message edited by Froggy on September 09, 2016)
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Teeps
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.yellowpages.com/burbank-ca/mip/barry-co ntrols-aerospace-721038

I called, they answer Hutchinson Aerospace, was transfered to voice mail.
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Court
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.hutchinsonai.com/products/product.cfm?c id=9
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Teeps
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unfortunately the isolator our Buells need is not an "off the shelf" item.
I've scoured their web site trying to find a substitute for the actual part with no success.

I'm sure someone else could make the part, even if only the isolator, sans cast part. But that would require having the engineering drawings with all the specs.
And a wallet fat enough for a run of parts.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.hutchinsonai.com/products/product.cfm?c id=1&fid=2
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know they were purchased by Huchinson because they are across the street from where I work. (the sign changed)

I had no idea that they were still making Buell stuff though.
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Professorbarnhouse
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The isolators on my XB are good for now, but when they go I'll probably try something like this http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/diymmi
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 03:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For the diy'ers ,the isolator that the tube frame buells use could also work on the xb types.
http://www.ukbeg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=175 38&hilit=willy+buell
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 03:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If Barry controles do make also the single isolators without the cast alloy mount then it could be possible to press a new isolator in a early mount (the hole where the old isolator sits looks oval ,but is round after removing the edges)
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Njloco
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here you go, for one of you innovative people but, if it works, please share !

http://www.belzona.com/en/products/purpose/casting s.aspx
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I hope this helps.

If anyone researches this and needs any tech help, let me know.

(Message edited by njloco on September 10, 2016)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2016 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You would still need the right durometer and material for the isolator part. I here rumors from reliable sources that its not a simple part with a wide tolerance.

I just replaced a similar part on my Mini Cooper S that attaches the rear of the front subframe to the body. You can buy the whole assembly, or just the inserts. Me, being as cheap as I am stupid, bought just the inserts.

Pressing the old inserts out with my vise (monster bench top 8 inch jaw) exploded my vise. Sigh. OK, it was a chinese crap monster vise, and it just exploded a cast part that I could weld back up and that is holding, but I was there in the middle of a 6 hour job I had turned into a 12 hour job "saving money" thinking "geesh am I an idiot". Followed by "well, maybe I just need a hydraulic press!" ; )

But the same deal, an inner metal ring bonded to an outer elastic part bonded to another outer heavy steel ring that is then pressed into a big cast part with some light machining.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, September 12, 2016 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the real ones have the rubber cured in so that they are bonded. I don't think we could get away with pressing anything into our aluminum housings.
Perhaps the poured in urethane soup is viable though.

I saw that thread of the guy adapting the softail/tuber isolator but he never said if it worked or not.
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Teeps
Posted on Monday, September 12, 2016 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Natexlh1000 Posted on Monday, September 12, 2016 -
I think the real ones have the rubber cured in so that they are bonded. I don't think we could get away with pressing anything into our aluminum housings.

My assumption was that the isolators are of the double bonded type construction. That is, the rubber part is bonded to an outer and inner metal shell. Similar to modern car suspension bushings.
If that is the case then replacement should be possible.

Natexlh1000 Posted on Monday, September 12, 2016 -
Perhaps the poured in urethane soup is viable though.

Maybe.

Natexlh1000 Posted on Monday, September 12, 2016 -
I saw that thread of the guy adapting the softail/tuber isolator but he never said if it worked or not.

I'm guessing it worked in as much as the bike could be used; but I'd bet it shakes like a dog crapping a peach pit! All the time.
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Monday, September 12, 2016 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The early ones had the rubber bonded directly onto the alloy mount ,the later 06 have the rubber into a metal bushing that is pressed into the alloy mount.

The early mounts have only a edge on both sides of the lug ,if that is removed it's the same as the updated ones.
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651lance
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been asked in other postings about the XB front mounts. They changed suppliers and the new one needs 20 weeks to get the parts ready to ship.

We have 60 front mounts on order at this time. The current release date is Jan 18 2017.

If you want me to contact you when they come in please let me know. Please don't send any payment info at this time. Our point of sale system will not allow us to swipe and charge later. What I can go anyone that wants one or more just email me and I'll start a list and contact everyone once I receive them. I have 60 on back order at this time and will most likely be ordering in more.

Please contract me at lkugler@stpaulhd.com DO NOT include any CC info at this time. Please state how many you want and shipping info.
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651lance
Posted on Friday, October 28, 2016 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The release date has been pushed out to 3/8/17. Don't shoot the messenger.
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651lance
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2017 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Front isolator kits are now in stock
For everyone that requested front mounts from me at the old price will be getting an email from me today or tomorrow.
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Teeps
Posted on Monday, March 20, 2017 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yup! "IT" came in the mail a few days ago.
Has that new rubber smell.
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Joel9
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Lance! Ordered one today.
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