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Stainlessmag
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check this out everyone, i know it wouldnt be great for performance but you gotta admit it does looks cool. http://www.bitz4buells.co.uk/products/240%20conversion.htm
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Might be nice for those Show dates or the Dragstrip...
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Tpoppa
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll bet Erik "loves" seeing stuff like that.
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Odie
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That looks sweeeeeet!!!
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Raraf
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am sure he loves it. Seeing that he made a cityX with see through panels. There is too much chi chi stuff on that site!
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Stoobr2
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm realibly informed by the guy who produces the 240 conversion kit for the XB's that the handling is'nt affected as much as you'd think. This can be bourne out by the size of the chicken strips visible in the photographs.

I was due to test ride this bike myself, before adding the product to my website. But unfortuantely I got knocked of my XB9s by a female car driver on a cell-phone on Aug 30th, and I sustained a dislocated right arm (now re-located) and a shattered collar bone, which may require future surgery.

I fully plan on fitting the 240 conversion to my next XB which hopefully I'll be fit & able to ride in the spring of 05.

The good thing is with the conversion, apart from having to have a set of pulleys modified, it is a direct repalcement for the OE set-up. The only things that have to be removed are the hugger & belt guards for clearence purposes.

*There could be a matching 2-piece front rim manufactured (to take the rim-rotor) if there was enough demand for it.

Regards - Stewart b4b.
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Tpoppa
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The guy who makes the conversion says it doesn't affect handling that much If I was trying to sell those, I guess I would say that too.

The added unsprung weight of the larger tire(and wider rim) will absolutely affect handling a negative way.

The wider profile of the 240 rear WILL result in slower turn in.

The steering geometry will also be negatively affected. Due the the short 52" wheelbase on XB's (which was engineered for quick steering), the affect will greater than on other types of motorcycles.
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I will affect the handling drastically...
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Fullpower
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

dat too fat
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just because you can, does that mean you should?

We see a lot of the ghetto styling being applied to the generic inline fours. I guess there's no sense leaving the Buells out.

I'd be more curious about the "chicken strips" left on his front as a sign about lean angles - not the rear.
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bingo Slaughter... Front strips on that are probably 3/4".
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BadS1
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

More then that!!!
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Tpoppa
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think he is referring to getting close to the edge of the rear tire.

Actually, with a 240 rear you get to the edge of the tire with LESS lean angle. Look at the picture where you can see the sidestand. Just sitting on the sidestand, the tire is resting near the edge.
http://www.bitz4buells.co.uk/products/240%20conversion.htm

This is because wide rear tires have very shallow profiles (like a beach ball). If the profile was as steep as a 180 it would raise the rear of the bike a couple inches and cause clearance issues with the swingarm, hugger, & undertray.
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I rode a custom with a 200 tire.
Not my kind of feel.
I kinda felt like it got higher as I leaned.

It may not have affected his handling at all.
I see lots of bikes that have only the very middle of the tire worn.
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tpoppa

Yep - flatter profile - think flat like a caterpillar tread and with zero lean angle, you'd scuff the edges.

The front will tell.
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Tbs_stunta
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>Actually, with a 240 rear you get to the edge of the tire with LESS lean angle. Look at the picture where you can see the sidestand. Just sitting on the sidestand, the tire is resting near the edge.

Which means you just seriously limited your corner speed.
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Bykergeek
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2004 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love a Wide : )
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Wardog3187
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That wide tire would look neat on my '49 WL Flathead, but not on my Firebolt.
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2k3lightning
Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

has anyone priced out this conversion yet?
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2k3lightning
Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just received the information for this conversion the price is as follows £1,500GBP (approx $2,670USD. Also an additional surcharge of £300GBP (approx $535.00) is applicable because they need your pulleys to modify. Due for production sometime in NOV 04 this is directly from Stewart @ bitz4buells
Give these guys a huge for a quick response.
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