| Author | Message | ||
     Dcmortalcoil |
Received this unit today and tried to install it on my XB9S. The oxygen sensor harness, however, did not have the correct connection setup. They reversed the male & female connectors. Hate to send it back just to have the connectors changed. Anyone know if the connectors for the oxygen sensor (Buell XB) is universal - whether I can just buy the connectors at the auto stores? I'm currently in the process of contacting Dobeck. | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
Are you suppossed to replace the O2 sensor with a different Bosch sensor? | ||
| Sammigs |
Did you call George at Techlusion and ask him about it. I received one and it hooked right up. The tan wire connects to the O2 sensor and the red w/yellow tracer connects to the harness. Is yours the same? | ||
| Dcmortalcoil |
Use stock O2 sensor. Either they mistakenly put the wrong connector body or the wrong prong. The original O2 sensor has a male prong with a male connector body. The 1045ST has a female prong with the male connector body. I can't tell which mistake they made. It was too late to call yesterday. Will try getting the right answer. Mistakes like that should not happen - it's just a matter of simple test. | ||
| Glitch |
I received one and it hooked right up. So...how does it do? Are ya happy? I gots to know!  Thanks in advance. | ||
| Dcmortalcoil |
Glitch, Can you confirm that O2 sensor connects to the tan wire and the red/yellow connects to the harness. My red w/yellow tracer has a connector for the O2 and the tan wire for the harness. Looks like they reversed the connector bodies. | ||
| Dcmortalcoil |
Confirmed with George at Techlusion that the tan wire goes to the O2 sensor. They'll ship me new connectors. FYI, the service at Techlusion is excellent. | ||
| Glitch |
Glad you got that taken care of. And fast too! Always good to hear about excellent customer service. Keep us up to date, I think I'm in the market for one of these also. | ||
| M1combat |
I certainly am... Please keep us informed. | ||
| Outrider |
FYI, the service at Techlusion is excellent. That's good to hear. Hope I never need it. Have a Techlusion DFO on my X1 for almost three years and am going to run it on the dyno this Thursday to see if the it needs a to be reset or not. FYI, the bike runs great but am doing a full service on it and the guy that installed and dyno'd the DFO is doing it for his own interest as well as mine. | ||
| Dcmortalcoil |
I got the connectors from local Auto store (GM weather pack - only several dollars) and installed it, and set to the recommended positions: 3(green)-7(yellow)-4(red)-7(rpm). Placed the unit on the recess of XB12 airbox - great location for it, except that I can't readily access it or see the LEDs once the airbox cover goes on. Didn't have time for a long ride. Just rode about 10 miles highway. One thing I noticed immediately was the smoother and faster throttle response and less engine vibration (swear I'm not imagining). The bike definitely got a quicker acceleration with the Techlusion. Can't put any of this scientifically though. Just my observation. I haven't tweaked the settings because it's very difficult without a dyno or the ability to maintain a steady throttle rev at 1800rpm. | ||
| Dcmortalcoil |
Sammigs, What settings did you use? People with Techlusion - please post the optimum settings for your XB. | ||
| Gschuette |
I've been looking over this site and I can't find a techlusion link. Am I blind? Anyway is is like a buell race ecm but from a different company or do you use the buell ecm (stock or race) and it acts as a programmer? Sorry if these ?'s were asked before I couldn't find any info on this . | ||
| Dcmortalcoil |
take a look at: http://www.techlusion.com/ It's piggy back system. Use stock ECM (stock or race). | ||
| Gschuette |
Thanks for the help. I'll check it out. | ||
| Sammigs |
Right now I'm using the base settings George at Techlusion recommended. G=3 Y=7 R=4 O2=7 I'm in the process of repairing a intake leak and really haven't had a chance to ride the bike. | ||
| Tatsu |
Okay what are the advantages of this system. Would it yield any gains on a system with let's say a Drummer, Race Filter and Race ECM. Just curious before I drop 300 bones on something that's not gonna do anything. What type of performance gains are we looking at? | ||
| Dcmortalcoil |
From what I understand, XB comes pretty optimized for it's system. As soon as the bike is modified, most typically, placing an open pipe, the A/F ratio will rise due to more air coming in. What the Techlusion device does is compensate for open flow, meaning adding more fuel to place the A/F ratio at the optimum. Take a look at their website. Right now, I'm a believer. But what it does to the MPG, I'll wait and see, because adding more fuel increases the carbon monoxide by a few percent. My bike (w/o Techlusion) ran very lean. | ||
| Tatsu |
So what is the function of the race ECM then? I could possibly see the need for this device with perhaps a stock ECM, but with a race filter? Just asking because I don't know these things. | ||
| Glitch |
So what is the function of the race ECM then? It does change the fuel curve, it also changes the timing advance. Our bikes aren't like the old days when you'd set the timing with a light and be done. We set static time by the position of the cam sensor, as the engine goes faster the ECM advances the timing as needed. That's why this box is not a replacement, it's an enhancement. Did any of that make sense? | ||
| Zip |
Glitch - How do you know that the race ECM changes the timing advance? | ||
| Glitch |
The Buell Tech at SMHD/Buell told me when I asked him what the difference was between the standard ECM and the RACE ECM was. | ||
| Jerseyguy |
I'm very interested in this product as I have the K&N, race ECU, Drummer, my own velocity stack & no inner airbox cover. Does anyone know what the relationship is between Techlusion & Dobeck Performance as named on the website? (Message edited by jerseyguy on September 22, 2004) | ||
| Xbolt12 |
Jerseyguy, They are the same. xbolt12 | ||
| Misato |
so which is better the techlusion or the PCIII for the XB's? does the tech ever trip the engine light? I thought someone said the PC is more fine tuneable | ||
| Glitch |
I thought someone said the PC is more fine tuneable It is, and for that, it's probably better, as in more adjustability, not quality. I just need something simpler that's all. More easier, is more better, for me. | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
The new Techlusion is suppossed to be as fine tuneable as the PCIII, just manually and not with a laptop, unless I am mistaken and you can now use a laptop to tune it aswell. | ||
| Captainplanet |
The pc III is better if for some reason you need to remove fuel from the map as the techlusion will not do that. I've yet to see any info saying an xb is running too rich somewhere. Mine just needed a little more fuel in the midrange so I used a techlusion, (the old on that sets off the light). I also added a little more fuel to the idle, which seems to smooth the idle a bit. It would be hard to get more simple than the techlusion. Wycked - I don't think you can use a laptop, even on the new techlusion. | ||
| Bud |
i'm waiting for these guys http://www.rapidbike.com/ to make a connector for the xb , it's digital and ing. curve fideling i'm riding with a pc3 and not completely happy with it. and i have a feeling that the oem ecu is still learning , and adjusting the AF/r gr,b | ||
| Dcmortalcoil |
I'm running it w/o race ecm. I'll install it my self as soon as TechnoResearch restocks the tuning software for XB. Today I rode about 30 miles and noticed a very strange throttle response around 3000 rpm at 5th gear (only), during slow deceleration (closing the throttle) with no brake applied, followed by a slow acceleration (opening the throttle slowly). While decelerating (closed throttle) at 5th gear, when the engine slows to around 3000 rpm, it appears as if the engine dies (no fuel delivery) - until it hits around 2700 rpm. During this weird period, the throttle does not respond for 2-4 seconds - after that the bike surges forward responding to the previous throttle response. I don't know what to make of it. I'll ride another 100 miles or so to see if it goes away. (Message edited by dcmortalcoil on September 22, 2004) |
