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Ingemar
| | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 02:48 pm: | 
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"at the moment"? Just a guess.
duh ... |
Ingemar
| | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 02:51 pm: |
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Vaughn,
Got a question for ya. You say after setting rider sag and have no static sag the spring is too soft.
But, I'd think a stiffer spring will result in even less sag ... no?
Just asking 'cos I don't know.
Thanx,
Ingemar. |
Henrik
| | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 03:36 pm: |
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Ingemar; the difference is, that with a stiffer, but correct rate spring you will not need to dial up the preload as much to achieve correct rider sag.
With the stiffer spring, the spring tension will go up higher given the same amount of sag, making less preload necessary.
If the spring is too soft, you will need to preload it much more for correct rider sag, leaving the springs under much tension even without a rider on the bike.
Hope that made sense 
Henrik |
Glitch
| | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 03:55 pm: |
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I'm a heavier guy though so maybe it's not quite so sweet at the lighter settings.
I'm 170ish with full gear on.
These bike seem to have more adjustment range for the lighter rider, in other words, the springs are on the soft side. |
M1combat
| | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 04:01 pm: |
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I agree, springs are setup for roughly a 150 pounder. I think that hyperpro progressive springs and a replacement rear is the order of the day (for ME and MY ••• anyway). |
Ingemar
| | Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 02:24 am: |
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Thanx Henrik.
Oke, another one for you guys. Progressive springs. Some say its the best, some say its not.
One explaination I got was that a progressive spring looses 1.5 to 2 inches of effective spring length because of the part thats wound softer. That part "bottoms out". leaving a shorter spring for the rest of the work.
What's the truth on this? Someone care to get into some of the nasty details on this?
Thanx,
Ingemar. |
Slowby
| | Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 02:44 am: |
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have you seen the new buell performance xb suspention? about $75 or so
any one used it ? |
Ingemar
| | Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 07:24 am: |
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They dont fit pre '05 models. |
Henrik
| | Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 09:03 am: |
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Progressive springs; seem to me to be a band-aid. "We don't want to stock a range of springs, so we'll make something that we can claim works for everyone..."
You're right, depending on your weight, the softer part of a progressive spring can bottom out with just preload applied, and then you're stuck with only the stiff part of the spring.
A correct rate, straight rate spring will be a better choice suspension wise. It'll react predictably as you set your sag which is the first step towards well dialed in suspension.
Henrik |
Ingemar
| | Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 01:34 pm: |
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Excellent. Thanx Henrik. |
M1combat
| | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 06:42 pm: |
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Ingemar - I just tried your settings and they certainly feel more firm. Corner entry feels better and I think that's due to the lack of real dive on the brakes. Mid-corner seems very stable and when you start standing it up it seems to know what to do. All in all, I like it. This seems like it'll be a good starting point for the > 150# club. |
Ingemar
| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 03:50 am: |
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Thanks for the heads up M1.
I noticed one thing. Accellerating hard over bumps or coming down after a little wheelie unsettles the front a little bit. With the softer suspension that was noticably less.
Not a problem, just time for a steering damper, that's all. |
M1combat
| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:58 pm: |
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I noticed that too but it's all about a loose upper body  . I'm thinking that just a tad more rear compression damping along with a little more rebound damping up front would be a good thing. I'll try it out.
I do like the feel of the damping though, maybe moving to 2.2-2.5 lines of preload up front would solve it. |
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