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Harvey_mushman
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My '09 XB12X has run flawlessly for 6,000 miles. I just rode it all morning. It sat for an hour, then I rode it up the road one mile. Everything A-OK. Half an hour later I hit the starter, it fires and dies. I restart it but it feels like it's running on one cylinder. I limp it home and let it sit a half hour. Same thing. Both pipes have heat so I would think that neither cylinder is completely dead but it sure feels and sounds like it.
Thoughts?
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Redponcho
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have you checked you battery connections? They can wiggle loose and give a similar symptom.
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Harvey_mushman
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Redponcho. I just went out ant took the connections apart and wire brushed them. (The bike and the connections are extremely clean.) No difference. It was cooled down to maybe 100 degrees. I tapped the pipes and the front one got hot and the rear also got hot but less than the front. Huge raw gas smell too.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fouled plugs? Don't the 09's have some magic sequence of things you can do to unfoul plugs?

Or just replace them.
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Jcbikes
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

o2 sensor...
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Team_ruthless
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2008 XB and 1125R - has the ability to clear residual fuel from the combustion chamber if a flooded engine or fouled spark plugs are suspected. This is achieved by opening the throttle to wide open, setting the Run/Stop switch to Run then, turning the ignition switch ON. This will fire the spark plugs for approximately 4 seconds, burning any fuel left over in the combustion chamber. It may be necessary to repeat this procedure several times to allow a severely flooded engine to start.
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Team_ruthless
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I got that from bad web couple years ago. It works
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Cataract2
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Or the head temp sensor. Do you have ECMSpy and the cable to work with it? (Although, I can't remember if ECMSpy works with the 09 ECM or not. Now that I really think about it. I think the 09 was the DDFI3 which doesn't work...)
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Harvey_mushman
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The HD 10R12X plugs look black and sooty. The nearest HD dealer is 50 miles from here. I'll cross reference that PN and see what else I can get to replace them. Hopefully it cures it.
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I will post back tomorrow with a report on how it went.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

try some ngk's
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Trojan
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2013 - 04:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is almost certainly the rear cylinder head temp sensor that is playing up. The only option is to change it.

If you want to try some decent plugs get NGK EIX9 iridiums. They won't foul up like the H-D plugs do.
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Cataract2
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2013 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For plugs. Just to save you a trip. Auto Zone, Advance, etc carry NGK or Champion plugs. If you go to NGK's site you can get the part number. Just give it to them and they can get you the NGK plug or cross reference another plug option. You will save some cash and time this way.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2013 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can probably check the rear head temp sensor with just a multimeter, I believe it is just a resistive element. Somebody has probably posted typical values. If my spare head still has a sensor in it, I can ping it out this weekend.
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Trojan
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2013 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you go to NGK's site you can get the part number

DCPR EIX9
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Cataract2
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2013 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trojan, maybe the plugs numbering is different in the UK for NGK.

What I got for his XB number that he needs is:

Standard Plug: DCPR8E Stock #: 4179
Iridium Plug: DCPR8EIX Stock #: 6546
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2013 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, after 71,000miles my bike was running rough, hard to start, acting like it cut off then back on again, all intermittently.
Turns out the plug wires had gone bad and were shorting out.
Easiest test is to go in the garage with the lights off and fire the bike up.
It'll be obvious if you need new ones.
Try this and other easy/cheap stuff first.
Best of luck!
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Harvey_mushman
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2013 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, it turned out to be simple, stupid (like me). I had Autozone order a set of NGK DCPR8EIX plugs. They came in this morning and I just put them in. Runs like new again.
I've had plug wires do that to me before where they worked perfect one day and like crap the next, but never plugs.
Thanks to all that responded. This forum is pretty damn good.
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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2013 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dude you own a lodge in UPSTATE NY and never said anything in the ADK Rally Thread!!!! Hell we should head up your way next year instead of Lake George we ride to Lake placid every darn year anyway!!! Maybe do 1 day in each a boost for business and you get to go out and play!!!!!
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Harvey_mushman
Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 07:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brumbear,
My lodge is 4-5 hours from Lake Placid. I'm in the Bristol Hills near the center of the Finger Lakes. It's much more of a place where a family will rent it for a week and explore our area.
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

aahhh well we might have to see about doing something in the future as wine country doesn't exactly suck either!!! And hope to see you at the next ADK Rally!!!
Dave
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