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Archive through January 07, 2013Reepicheep30 01-07-13  08:33 am
         

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Gregoxb
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2013 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been measuring the battery compartment in my 2009 XB12Ss and the dimensions I have to work with are not very compatible with the Ballistic 16 cell batteries.

I would not be able to fit the regular 16 cell Ballistic in any position, it is too tall no matter what side it is on.

If I lay the 16 cell HD flat the long way it might just squeeze into the battery tray. But the problem then is the connections will be on the side pointing toward the rear of the bike. I would then have to contort the contact wires so they can sit flush with the battery, and it will be a PIA to get a screw driver or wrench in there to fasten the screws. Not to mention I would have to figure out how to fasten the battery, and I am not to thrilled about placing it on its side (although Ballistic says their battery can be mounted in any position).

I am not going to remove the battery tray, as it serves the function of stabilizing several large cables and wires as well.

I am not prepared to devote a day mounting and rearranging things under my seat.

This has discouraged me from buying a Lithium battery.

I will be purchasing either a Scorpion or an HD drag battery from American Sport Bike and a battery tender.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2013 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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The EBR nanoteck may have the overvolt protection and load balancing, but it is only an 8 cell battery, and people are complaining of not getting enough kick from their 12 cell.




I have both a 12 cell from Speedcell, and the 8 cell EBR battery, they both work about the same. If I had the coin I sure would buy a second EBR battery and run them both to improve starting in the sub freezing temperatures I ride in, but the one battery gets me by so far.

But like Reepi said, "cells" isn't really the best way to measure its performance, that is basically the equivalent to saying a 8 cylinder engine is better than a 4, when there is more to the equation than just the number of pots.

(Message edited by Froggy on January 07, 2013)
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Gregoxb
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2013 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am going with a standard battery as all I have to do is put it in, attach it, and fasten it. Done. Perfect fit, functional positioning, easy to remove, and easy to access.

The Lithium would require some designing and building to make a convenient, functional, secure, and accessible fit. I don't feel like doing that, I'd rather ride.
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Greg_e
Posted on Monday, January 07, 2013 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well the Scorpion definitely tested very high on my tester, but I never tried it in the cycle because we had snow by the time I received it. It fit almost perfectly. The almost perfectly part is because the terminals don't stick out as far as the stock Harley batteries, an extra washer between the cable and the battery will fix the offset (or just tighten the bolts and don't sweat the difference).
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Gregoxb
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ordered a Scorpion. Cleaned my contact points. Im pretty sure the positive was loose and burned the screw and killed the old battery. Gonna put electric grease this time.
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Gregoxb
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2013 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I got an email today from EBR. Basically it said that the 8 cell nanoteck from EBR is NOT recommended for use on an XB that is street driven. They recommend starting the bike with another power source, and then using the nanoteck battery to run the electronics while the bike is running. Essentially making it a race use only part.
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