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Johnk3
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want to adjust the suspension on my xb9r, but i am unfamiliar with the settings. All settings are factory set right now and the bike feels too bouncy over the bumps. I have some dive on the front end when turning while going slow in 1st gear and when laying off the throttle while turning 25-30mph 2nd/3rd gear. I weigh 170.

Increasing the compression dampening on the forks will take care of the dive?
increasing the rebound dampening will help with the bounce?
adjusting the preload helpful?
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You say it is factory set right now... You mean by the book, or the way it came from the dealer?
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check your email.

Ride to the edge!
Dave
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Yellow_xb9s
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I set my bike up according to the specs in the shop manual for the 9S. It worked pretty well, but the front was still a little nervous under hard acceleration. I backed the rebound damping off an additional quarter turn and the bike was rock solid up to the rev limiter in fifth gear.

Don't hesitate to purchase a shop manual for your R... It's money well spent.
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Coldwthrrider
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave, do you have a list of suspension settings other than the ones in the owners manual? I've been playing around with mine a bit but can't seem to get it to be controlled in all conditions, if that's even possible. I'd love some other suggestions to try.
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check your mail.

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Coldwthrrider
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Dave (and StoneCold) for the info. That should help for my upcoming advanced rider course this weekend!
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Boogman
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi Dave could I also get the recommendations you make ?? any info that can improve my XB9S would be great

thanks in advance.
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

M1 and Boog,
you have mail.

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Dave
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Dave : ).
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Xb9sx
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave, can you send me the info also. Thanks.
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can in the morning.
I back both the comp and rebound off about 1/4 turn from the settings they have,just feels better to me that way.

Dave
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Kevinfromwebb
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Dave... Me too, Me too...

Thanks, Kevin

: )
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

XB9SX,
I could if I had an email address for you? It's not in your profile. Send it to me and I'd be glad to send you the settings.

Kevin,
You have mail.


Ride to the edge!
Dave
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Stonecoldbuellin
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HA! Nampa idaho!! I used to live in Caldwell and party in Nampa.
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Mr_cuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave and anyone else -

Can you post whatever info/advice you have here publicly rather than a bunch of us going "send it to me too!"
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Stonecoldbuellin
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

These are based on owners manual settings

ADDITIONAL TUNING NOTES RELATIVE TO AGGESSIVE HANDLING SETTINGS

TO IMPROVE STEERING QUICKNESS AND COMPLETE CORNERS EASIER

Try this first: Increase rear shock preload 1 position

If more is desired: Reduce Front Preload (Turn Adjuster Counterclockwise until an additional line is visible).

If more is desired: Increase rear compression clockwise one-quarter to one-half tunrs

If more is desired: Increase front rebound Clockwise one-quarter turns.

TO IMPROVE RIDE QUALITY

Try this first: Reduce Compression Damping, Counterclockwise one-quarter to one-half turns

If more is desired: Reduce rebound damping, Counterclockwise one-quarter to one-half turns

If more is desired: Reduce rear shock Preload 1 position.

(Message edited by stonecoldbuellin on August 18, 2004)
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't seem to get the chart to copy here.
I sent it to you too Mr Cuell.

Dave
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Mr_cuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for any help. I have followed owners manual to try and quicken turn in, but the bike just feels twitchy rather than quick. Mine just doesn't feel "flickable" but more like nervous instead. Never that planted, riding a rail through the corner feeling. It's always moving all over the place.

(Message edited by mr_cuell on August 18, 2004)
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mr_Cuell... What tires are you running? If they are the stock Dunlops... TAKE THEM OFF!!! I think the bike will handle better on the rims. Just kidding, but maybe try Pilot H2's, Metzeler Sportec M1's (my favorite), or Pirelli Diablo's.
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Mr_cuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yessir - I am on the stock Dunlops. It irritates me that the stock tires are so easily improved upon. You would think they would get that at the factory and say - this can be better for virtually no change in cost.

I'll try the M1's when I wear these down a bit.
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wouldn't even wait to wear them down... I did on my 12R, but as soon as I put on the Metzeler's I INSTANTLY felt a LOT better about the bike (and I felt pretty good about it with the Dunlops). It didn't take any more than the 20' of my driveway in a straight line to tell that the M1's were WAY better. It really IS that much better.
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Mr_cuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yea I love the bike right now, I don't even really mind how busy it is through the corners, but I have yet to be "wowed" by any handling prowess, especially when compared to it's similarly priced overseas competition. But I still love it, and prefer it over anything else I could afford. I just want it to feel planted in the corners.
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Kevinfromwebb
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks, Dave...
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Aa5ch
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The suspension setup chart I used to tame my XB9SL can found in this thread...

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/14412.html?1028589809

I believe they were developed by Shawn Higbee and originally published in the Battle2win newsletter/magazine thingee.

As with everything short of the Laws of Thermodynamics and Newtonian Physics...YMMV.
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"but I have yet to be "wowed" by any handling prowess"

Get a new set of tires : ). I think with the GP-ish dimensions of the bike it makes VERY good use of tires that are more GP-ish in their dimensions.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 06:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Not_frn
Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow guys....the chart is great!...not to horn in on a thread but is there a similar chart for the X1 (2000)?....Thanks, Skip
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