| Author | Message | ||
     Alstroker |
Well I did it guys. I bought a Firebolt xb12r today. After bugging the wife for several weeks she gave in. The dealership experience seemed good till I got the bike home. Then I noticed that the bike had 137 miles on it. That seems like a lot for a bike they are calling new. The book says to take it easy for the first 50 miles but my bike is already past that. I don't know how it was treated. I understand if they gave a few demo rides but this just seems like a lot of mileage. Should I even worry about it? I don't know what to do or think. | ||
| Hogs |
Howdy Alstroker I wd. think or expect that bike to be sold at Demo prices whatever that might be in your area or in the market place say..... I bought mine in April this year with about 175 miles " SAY" on it and bought it at Demo price.. | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
Dude, you got a demo bike that very well may have been beat on. I know most folks dont take demos very easily. | ||
| Hogs |
HAhah your so right there R1 took a xb9 out last week and drove it HARD.But it had approx: 5500 miles on it though and WORK GReat.. I`m sure with low miles hopefully ppl gave it respect ..you wd. think someone with in the dealer probally only drove that one and wd. break it in GooD, And that BIKE is FAR from being broken in YET..! Threat that BIKE with Respect Alstroker :-) | ||
| Lpowel02 |
when I took my demo ride, my dealer had a demo bike w. race kit that they said had been broken in and they told me to go as hard as I felt comfortable with...makes sense they would so I could see what the bike was capable of. When I picked up my actual bike, it had 8 miles on it. I'd be pretty ticked with 137 miles on the clock already, if they hadn't told me about it. I'd say it's pretty likely that bikes been ridden hard | ||
| Mr_cuell |
I think you have reason to be ticked. I would want to trade it back for new. The Thats a couple hours of time on that motor, at the most critical stage of it's life. Instead of buying a "new" bike you have an unknown, and thats not part of the deal you signed up for. | ||
| Deerhunter17 |
Well, hold the remorse. Congrats on your purchase!! You have a new bike w/ 2 year unlimited mile warranty, and a great bike it is. It's natural to feel a little concerned when we make big money purchases, but it's done. You got the bike you wanted, so go out and enjoy!! | ||
| Mr_cuell |
Who knows if he got the bike he wanted. He probably wanted a new bike. | ||
| Deerhunter17 |
I would think when you lay 10 grand or so for a new bike, I would HOPE for your sake it is the one you wanted, and by all accounts 137 miles is NEW | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
by all accounts 137 miles is NEW HUH?? Its a used demo bike obviously. When I got my X1 it had 6 miles on it, my R1 had 4 miles on it. If I purchased a bike that was supposedly new & it had 137 miles already...& lord knows how hard those miles were..I would be demanding a new bike or a substantial amount of $$ back. Demos go for less than a new bike. | ||
| Mr_cuell |
Mine had 4 miles on it. It takes several hours of riding to rack up 137 in jaunts from the dealer. No one is super slabbing a test ride. It's arbitrary, but to me anything 10 miles or under is "New". It's fuzzy to me on the 10-20 mile mark what I would do, but by my account it's black and white at 137 miles. It's used. A couple critical hours used. It's not the end of the world, but it's not straight deal from the dealer. | ||
| Deerhunter17 |
Well, to start with, we don't know what kind of $ was paid, and the nature of the miles. You could ASSume they where put on by some hard driving fool hell bent on pushing the thing to its mechanical limits, or possibly by a few individuals with more respect and common sense who where interested in finding out what a buell is. No doubt if this ( the mileage ) is a total surprise to the purchaser, he should confront the sales person, general manager or even Buell if so concerned, but the legalities of it is that if the bike was not registered it was NEW. My point is that here we have a guy who made the plunge, spent good money on a great bike, Congratulations are in order. I for one don't like to hear people tell me I could have, should have.. or shouldn't have.. upon hearing of my purchasing something as expensive as a new12. As we all know.. there is always a better deal... well you have the bike. ENJOY it, and Know that if there is any problem... It's backed buy a great warranty | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
I for one don't like to hear people tell me I could have, should have.. or shouldn't have.. upon hearing of my purchasing something as expensive as a new12. He is asking for advice on what he should do. I don't know how it was treated. Should I even worry about it? I don't know what to do or think. You can save the cheerleading, he knows he bought a great bike...well a great used bike. But what should he do about it? | ||
| Blake |
Ride it. | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
"Ride it" is one response. Hows about getting some compensation from his dealer for being sold a used bike? Maybe a free race kit or a couple helmets would make him feel better & help patch things up? | ||
| Alstroker |
First of all guys I paid $10,000 for it otd. They expressly told me it was a new bike. I never thought to check the odometer before I trailered it home (theres a certain amount of honesty that you assume). I just looked at my bill of origin. It says that it has 69 miles on it (wrong). I think that they new what they were doing. The vin number matches but the mileage does not. I am so mad. The bike probably is fine but that is not the point. What they did is not right. I live an hour away and I think they are closed on Sunday. I am going to have to worry about this for the rest of the weekend. Also, I looked at the tires and they are well scuffed. You can see that it was leaned over in the corners very well. I know what they are going to say, "You put that mileage on it Sunday and now you want to back out of the deal." I don't know what I am going to do. I think I may be screwed. | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
Al....go in there 1st thing monday morning & talk with the owner. If he gives you any crap, simply return the bike. You have 3 business days to cancel the transaction. You just bought it today so there is not a damn thing they can do to you. Or at least threaten to cancel it, maybe they will change their tune then. | ||
| Alstroker |
I just checked their web site. They are open on Sunday. I am going to try to get this taken care of. I will keep you informed. | ||
| Blake |
I figured you got a great deal on it. Sounds like they are not being honest. Take it back and find another dealer. | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
Dyna not every state has a "cooling off period" I know for a fact if it were AZ, you can't take it back. In a case like that, AZ has your signiture stating the milage, if you didn't check it, thats your tough luck as far as the dealers there are concerned. Al I hope it goes well. If not, enjoy the hell out of the bike and nit pick EVERY little thing until you are TOTALLY satisfied. Also contact Buell customer service. | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
I thought the cooling off period was federal deal? If not, hopefully TN has one. | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
There is indeed a 3 day federal cooling off period. NOW THE 3 DAY CANCELLATION RULE HAS FEDERAL PROTECTION AND THEN LOCAL JURISDICTIONS ADD PROTECTION AS WELL. VIRGINIA FOR EXAMPLE ALSO GIVES YOU 3 DAYS TO CANCEL SOME TELEPHONE SALES TRANSACTIONS. However there is also bad news that I just discovered. The cooling period is only valid for items you buy from someone like a door to door salesman. http://www.knoxbar.org/Law_Line/T5_1408.html | ||
| Deerhunter17 |
Hey R1, Rah rah ree... your right, just hated to patronize the buyers remorse.. you guys have it right though I feel that the legalities of the sale  ( paperwork signed by purchaser ) may make it difficult. Good luck Al, giv'em hell and I hope it works out for you...... But.. if all else fails... Ride it, enjoy it "IS" a great bike... rah rah rah btw, my 12R had 51 miles when I purchased NEW (Message edited by deerhunter17 on August 08, 2004) | ||
| Prof_stack |
If the XB's are as reliable and rugged as stated by Court and others, then you shouldn't have to worry about problems arising from ultra-hard demo riding, if it really occured. But the dealer wasn't being totally up front with you and that bothers me more than the bike having 137 miles on it. btw, when I bought my Blast in '00 it had 150 miles on it from demo rides (including mine). No problems with it for the 10k miles I put on before trading for the XB9S. | ||
| Aa5ch |
TN? Let me guess...Bumpas? My XB9SL had 60 something miles on it when I purchased it "new" [in Missouri]. At the time I didn't realize it but some of those 60 miles were probably stationary in a parking lot. Dunlop 207 rears don't last long but mine had an "unusually short" lifespan. The second one looked better at 1000 miles then the original looked at 500...hmmm? At the time I was just happy to find a bike that I wanted. In retrospect, I wish I had pressed them on it. | ||
| Midknyte |
I'm all for stepping up the ladder. Go in and see the general manager or the owner. Get your answer, but try to let it go at that and start obsessing on riding, not on the details. I bought mine with 230 miles on it. I knew it going into it. I got a respectable number of $ off. And I got a bike that I believe is rock solid, over engineered, and has not given me any mechanical worries. Now, proper set-up, that's another story. If they did not ask you what you weighed when you bought it, I would take or ride it back to the shop very carefully and let a mechanic set up the suspension for you. I would not follow the book settings - they, in my opinion here, leave the bike stiffer than you will expect. I would also leave the tires 4 lbs under, but again that is just me. Talk it over with the mechanic. You've got an incredible machine. Emphasis on incredible. If you don't enjoy it - it's your own fault. | ||
| Jasonxb12s |
mine had 38 miles on it when I got it home..never really thought about looking...but, I wasn't willing to take it back and wait for a new one to arrive a month later...I would just make sure there is nothing aesthetically wrong with the bike, as you already know about the 2 year warranty... | ||
| Chainsaw |
I would recommend talking to the sales manager or owner...nicely! Might mention there must be some kinda mistake, you thought you were buying a new bike, but it has 137 miles on it, which is a lot of demo rides. You might mention that the average MC rider spends $1000 a year on parts and accessories. Treat you right, and you'll be spending that money with them. I would try to: 1. Get the price dropped (unlikely) 2. Bike swapped (unlikely) 3. Free, longer extended warranty (very likely) 4. Credit in the amount of the price difference between "new" & "demo" at the dealer that you can use to buy parts, jackets, helmets, etc (it could happen!)) If you can not resolve this in a reasonable fashion with the dealer, maybe you should demo some of their HD's, rev them up to redline, shift without the clutch...and show up once or twice a month to do it to various bikes... not that it would help anything, but it would make me feel better if I thought I was being screwed. | ||
| Alstroker |
Yes it was Bumpus Harley Davidson. | ||
| Raceautobody |
come on you laid down 10 grand and didn't look at the bike. The dealer may have been trying to slip on by you but you had every chance to look at the bike ride the bike run the bike and deal on the price. Warranty is still good ride it like you stole it. If the bike can't handle it buell and hd will be repairing it. |
