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Mikep
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yesterday on my thankfully short, four mile ride home from work, here is what happened.

1. While lightly applying the rear brake the bike slewed a bit. I though that was odd and wondered if the hot asphalt was hot enough to be that slippery.

2. I did smell something funny, like a burning clutch or brake pads. I was being kind at the time, so that seemed odd as well.

3. I got home, parked the bike in the driveway, went inside, and came back 5 minutes later to a puddle of oil beneath my beloved XB9R.

4. Oil all over the front chin spoiler and trailing back to the rear tire. OUCH!

5. Mopped up the oil, started the bike, and it turns out the two oil lines exiting the oil cooler had rubbed together and worn through.

It is a good thing my trip was short or the suicide attempt would have been successful.

Pictures to follow.

mikeyp
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Mikep
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Photos will take a bit longer, I need to shrink them.

mikeyp
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Mikep
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oil Line Photos. I really like posts with pics:
Oil 6
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Mikep
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oil 5Oil 5
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Mikep
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oil 4
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Mikep
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oil 3
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Mikep
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oil 2
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Mikep
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oil 1
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Tripper
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shame to waste all that new clean oil.
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is a part on my 12 that would have prevented that. It's a small clip that grabs both hoses and holds them apart. Look at a few twelves and chech it out. I think you need one of these.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shred's 9R did the same thing. Fix for free with said clip. After he told me what happened I checked mine. Close enough for me to get a clip of my own.
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Tgroghan
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It ain't a HD unless you see oil under it. Good photos, I'll be sure to check mine now.
Thad
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interesting enough, that clip that M1 speaks, is only stock on the 12R's. Its the same as the black clips underneath the bike. I too had a similar instance, fortunately I found mine when I rolled to a stop at a restaurant and was able to limp the bike to the dealer. Since it was a Saturday, it got looked at on Monday, the new lines arrived Thursday, picked up the bike Friday morning. Covered under warrenty.
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Bomber
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

couple of cable ties will also worwk (aka, Nascar Pulg Wire Separators!)
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Starter
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My 9 has the clips. Probably cause it's a 2004.
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2k4xb12
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 06:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It ain't a HD unless you see oil under it.

Geez! You beat me to it

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Mikep
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tripper,
That 'clean' oil is 3000 mile old Mobil One 15w-50, pretty amazing that it is that clean! These are nice engines.

All,
Thanks for the info on the clip. I called Parts back and ordered the clip as well.

We have great riding weather right now so the 3 day part's wait is troublesome.

mikeyp
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Mikep
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is a photo of the clamp.
xb oil line separator
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike -- while waiting, if the lines show up before the clip, put a tie wrap around both line where they want to rub -- tighten the tie wrap until the lines are about 1/4 inch apart -- wrap another tie wrap (black, natch) around the first tie, between the two lines -- Hey, presto! the lines can't touch.

to be really trick, substitute about 1/4 inch of vacuum tubing for the second tie wrap -- the tubing will keep the lines separate

not quite as trick looking as the clip, but a kinda rough and ready look, and, most important, CHEAP and readily available!
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Mikep
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bomber,

Great fix! So that's what the previous posts were saying when they mentioned tie wraps.

mikey
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mikey -- yessir, sorry -- I keep forgetting that evryone doesn't know everything I know (or something like that)

that tip was picked up from an issue of Hot Rod decades ago -- the technique is also useful for making spark plug wire separators, immobilizing and protecting fluid lines (specially those trick SS ones -- those things are just grinding wheels looking for something to damage), locating clutch cables, and on and on . . . . ..

did I mention it's cheap?
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Mikep
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bomber,

Did you say it was cheap?

Adds that ever elusive 'character', to your vehicle too.

There also exist this neat blue (Kevlar coated) engineering polymer plastic oil line that is as tough as stainless, but does not act like a grinding wheel. I do not have the tools to make up my own oil lines or I might have done that. Its lighter weight too.
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yessir, I saw it in the Jeg's catalog, and on an XB engined dirt tracker in the flesh -- think a Black XB, black wheels, with blue bits here and there, including that zoomy hose material . . . . very cool and slick lookin

Try as I might, I am unable to avoid the whole "character" thing, so would that be unelusive?

;-}
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Davefl
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Making up your own hoses is not hard. Finding fitting to work with that blue hose and mate to the SAE 45 degree flair on you oil cooler is the problem. All of the flair fittings you get from Jeg's are going to be AN 37 degree fittings.
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Mikep
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bomber,

Since you are, 'unable to avoid the whole "character" thing', that would mean you have indeed achieved that ever elusive (exclusive) 'Character' status that we all aspire to. At least your vehicle has reached that status.

mikeyp
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kind words, Mikeyp -- thanks ;-}
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Fireboltxb9r
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had the exact same thing happen on my 03 XB9R. Buell covered parts (oil lines and clip separator) and all labor even though my bike is well out of warranty. I've been very pleased with Buell customer service as they have fixed several things for free after my 1 year warranty expired. I suggest if you guys aren't getting support from your local dealer call Buell direct at 414-343-4056 and follow the prompts. My dealer wanted to charge me over $300.00 for this repair until I told them I spoke with Buell, and Buell was covering it!
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Bigbird
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The replacement oil lines come in a kit that has the seperator included. I'm at home and can't remember the part number (might be HS0045.02a8, or something like that), but I think it costs $62.75 for the kit.
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Mikep
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fireboltxb9r,
Binghamton, NY! I am originally from Buffalo, NY. So far nobody is offering to pay for the parts, but that is ok. I just want to get it fixed.

Bigbird,
The second time I called the parts guy, I think he realized that there was a kit. We shall see what I get.

mikey
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Rokoneer
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Mike, I assume that you're dealing with Southern Tier? They have done the recall work an my XB and I had them do a TPS reset as well, at which point they decided to check the timing with out my asking them to....but overall I have been fairly impressed with how they have treated me...
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