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Jonsocal
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, I am new to utilizing the ECMSpy program and need a little bit of assistance. I have loaded it on my laptop (Windows XP) and cannot get it to link to see the cable. It only gives me the prompt to see "com 4". I set it to auto-detect and turn the key on and then turn the engine power toggle to on and then hit "OK" on the prompt and it still does not see the USB link to the motorcycle. (Yes, the cable is plugged into the motorcycle on the com port on the left hand side just underneath the seat rail.) What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance for the help.
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 01:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you sure that the cable it attached to comm 4?

This will get you close but might be the long way around:

control panel --> system --> hardware --> device manager --> expand ports and you may need to right click on the USB Serial and choose properties if it doesn't show you the port number after the name.

If your cable does happen to be comm 4 then there may be something wrong with it. You would need to jumper two of the pins but I can't remember which two right now and my tester is not handy, have to wait until tomorrow for this info. Basically what you are going to do is jumper the TX and RX lines, open hyper terminal and start a new session with 9600 bps, 8-n-1 (8 bits, no parity, one stop bit), flow control set to none. If the cable is working in this loopback mode, when you type you will get characters on the screen. If not working you will not get characters.
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also for autodetect, make sure the cycle key and and run switch are set to on before launching ecmspy, not sure if it matters but it might help.
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Jonsocal
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 02:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Greg, thanks for the advise. I will try this again in the morning. 8-n-1 brings me back to my old programming days with AT&T/Lucent/Avaya. I will test with Hyperterminal to see if I get a reading. Funny thing is that when I moved the cable to a different USB port, ECMSpy still only gave me an option for Com 4. Not sure why.
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 02:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Moving to another port should have changed the comm port number and it should have had to load the drivers again.

I want to say short pins 2 and 3 to create the loopback, but I could be wrong.
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pins 2 and 4 are power, you need to short 1 and 3 to make the loopback connection.
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Djohnk
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think I had to download and install a driver to get my cable to work. Did you try that yet?

Google ECMSPY cable driver and you should find something. Usually when you buy the cable there are some instructions to that effect.
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most are made with the FTDI chip, so it should have installed this.
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Jonsocal
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Greg, you would think that it would have installed the correct driver. I took Djohnk's advice and also finally read the paper that the cable came with and found a site where I could download the correct drivers and ta-daaa! I am now able to read my current ECU parameters. Thanks to you both for the help. The first thing I am trying to clear up is the popping on decel with the Jardine pipe. (I have the pipe, opened up air-box, K&N air filter and comfort kit installed on my bike.) I read on another post on here (from terrys1980 that I could) :
1. Enable decel fuel cut off
2. Increase fueling to 40 on the bottom two rows from 1900rpm up.

I have figured out how to do that but I also want to save my current configuration so that I don't screw things up. I figure that I could make the change and then choose "Burn Maps" to initiate the change. I want to first save my current map. I haven't quite figured that out yet. (I want to thank you guys again for the help on this. It is much appreciated.) If any of you are ever in the San Diego area, drop me a line. I am within about a hour or so riding distance from American Sportbike which makes tinkering/upgrading with my moto a bit too convenient.
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Jonsocal
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh yeah, one more thing. I have some photos that I took with my droid phone/camera and wanted to post them on here. I was invited by a local radio station to have my bike photographed for their website and they would have a lovely young lady on there posing. I would have posted the photos but they are a tad risque. No nudity, just an attractive, yet scantily dressed young lady draped all over my moto. I didn't want to get anyone all up in arms regarding the photos but I think I am going to try to post them anyhow. At least then you could "almost" see the bike you are helping me out with. (It is hard to see the bike with the girl in the way!)
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can make them a link as opposed to embedded in a post, then with a little disclaimer the user can decide if he/she wants to view them.
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Jonsocal
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What is the difference in a modified race ECM as opposed to a tuned stock ECM? I could blow $300.00 for a Race ECM from EBR or I could work with Al Leighton on tuning my stock ECM. Is there a benefit one way or another? To me they are just standard ECM's with fine-tuning to optimize the fueling maps to your specific bike or set-up. Wither way it is just a piece of hardware with programming. I figure with Al assisting me at his shop, I could get a more customized mapping. What do you think?
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it is an 03 machine, there is nothing different between the stock and race ECM except programming. The new E B R race ECM is different hardware (I think) with a map made by them. I would go with the custom made map on your stock ECM if I were you.
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Djohnk
Posted on Monday, March 19, 2012 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on the custom program, that's what I would do ... especially since you have an expert close by who can guide you.

The added benefit: you will know more about your bike when you are done. It's really cool to be able to program the ECM yourself.
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