| Author | Message | ||
     Buellblastrider |
The guy with the Buell wheelies bar must have been rather inefficient. I ran a 12.417 on my 04 with race kit and a 12.390 on my 09 bolt totally stock after riding t all day and never shutting it off when I pulled straight into staging lanes. I am as inconsistent as they come and never launch hard. I think this thread has become sad after a man post a video for us to enjoy and some feel to counviit him over his choice. Thanks for sharing dean. | ||
| Tony216 |
I never said the guy on the Buell ran a 12.50. I said he was faster than my friend who was running 12.50's at the time. What I can tell you is the guy i was watching was somewhere between 7.99 and 12.49. I can say this because I'm pretty sure if I saw an XB in the 7's, I'd remember the time. And I remember being impressed that $2500 worth of 84 Camaro could run 12.50's. I still believe street racing is foolish. (Message edited by Tony216 on December 04, 2011) | ||
| Deanh8 |
My mistake on the GSXR600. it has a choke lever on his handle bars, same symbol as my 01 ZX6R, which is carb'd. Google shows they kept the choke lever, but used it as a "fast idle" lever. My mistake on that. My Insurance sure is not going to cover me if im racing at a track. They have have never denied a claim from anyone who has wrecked racing with us in the last 7 years we have been racing here. "drag race standard" What is that even supposed to mean? I posted videos of REAL RACES that actually happened, in REAL LIFE and you are bringing up FICTIONAL races that are MADE UP IN YOUR HEAD to prove that you know how slow my bike is? now all of a sudden there is "STANDARDS" to street racing. The only rule we use is... "Chase is a race". If both cars or bikes leave the line, its a legit race. First person to the finish takes the money. Both races I made it to the 1320ft line before the other bike, even if I let off at 1000ft. So how fast is your bike? How often do you race it? Do you even race it at all? To bad you dont live closer, id love to tear up some of your buddies 750's | ||
| Deanh8 |
and I guess Wheelie bars automatically mean the bike is fast. This is going to be the first place I post my 10 sec time slip without a wheelie bar as soon as the tracks open up again. This reminds me of all the doubters on the ZX form when I posted videos of my 636 beating a 9 sec camaro, and smoking GSXR750s, and kinda keeping up with liter bikes. Didnt think I would get haters on the buell forum to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjIZ_OWSZNM (Message edited by deanh8 on December 04, 2011) | ||
| Tony216 |
Done with (Message edited by Tony216 on December 04, 2011) | ||
| Tony216 |
This (Message edited by Tony216 on December 04, 2011) | ||
| Fast1075 |
In NHRA only the fuel cars run 1000'. Everybody else runs 1/4 mile except at some LARGE sportsman events where they run 1/8 mile to speed up the process. I actually find this thread humorus. I made my first pass down the 1/4 mile at a dragstrip in 1972. I love my XB. It is the finest large displacement street motorcycle I have ever owned for carving corners. Compared to almost any other sportbike, in a straight line it is slow. A 2 valve pushrod motor has it's limits. If you put enough air through it to make real power, it will come apart. Sad but true. The design simply was never intended to support a lot of power. At the drag strip, where the motor is only under power a few seconds at a time, may give useable life from the motor...say 300 passes before you need some serious rebuilding. A friend is a pretty serious AHDRA racer. Lets say "multi time champion" in a couple of "street" classes. He is successful in large part due to his deep pockets and a very good predictive cycle program. (he regularly goes completely through his motors and replaces failure prone parts like crankshaft assemblies BEFORE they fail). I get asked all the time how quick my bike is in the 1/4. Dunno, ain't gonna try. I would be like trying to chop down a tree with a scalpel. Wrong tool for the job. You could do it, but it wouldn't be effective. That isn't to say there are no FAST xb's. Sure there are...I'll bet NoRice's nitrous bike is a blast to ride. Ericz's turbo bike must be a beast. The problem is getting all the oily parts to stay inside the motor when you make a LOT of power. And if you can get all there is to get from a stock height, stock wheelbase XB at the drag strip. You ain't making much power. POWER hangs the front wheel at 1,000 feet. If I was going to drag race a Buell/EBR, it would be the 1125/1190. There is a motor that can make some pretty serious numbers. I am looking forward to spring, when people like Joe or Mike Or other Mike bring it. In drag racing, it's run with the big dogs or stay on the porch. Street racing can (under the right circumstances) be rather rewarding. I have gotten paid pretty good for riding other peoples bikes. I have also been arrested for it. | ||
| Deanh8 |
Again why is NHRA brought up again? What did that have anything to do with my first post? Why is it that one of the worlds fastest production cars, the Corvette ZR1, can make 650hp out of a pushrod 2 valve engine? Why was the viper so successful with a pushrod 2 valve engine? Why is General motors currently developing variable timing and direct injection to use on their existing pushrod 2 valve motors if they are crap? So because you feel your bike is slow you dont race it? Yet you have all the answers to every thing? You may be around racing, have friends who race, and know a little bit about it, but with that logic you will always be a magazine racer. Its about the sport man, about the fun. Racing is about trying to get the best out of your setup, tweaking things to find what works and what doesnt. Aren't miatas the most raced car in the united states? Going by your logic it should be corvettes. Racing has nothing to do with power, its about the sport. I took my FWD, 2 Valve, automatic, Pushrod 4 Door Buick Regal V6 into the 11's with relativity low money and hardly any engine work. It made less then 300whp, but had over 400ftlbs of torque. It only reved to 5.5k, and had a very short powerband much like the XB. The thing you had to do was setup the chassis and gearing to best make use of the torque and hope the little power it has can pull you though the traps in a decent time. Find the right ride height, figure out how you want the weight to transfer, figure out stall speeds, figureout how much boost you can hold at the line before the tires wont hook. I got that thing down to 1.6 60 foots learning all this stuff. There is so much to learn at a drag strip about launching your bike you have no idea. You can perfect your skills and learn what works and how you can improve YOURSELF to do better. Doesnt matter if your running 15's or running 9's the person to can get the most out of their setup is the person who wins in my book. Ive seen 600hp camaros run 11's, and ive seen 600hp camaros run 9's. Why didnt EricZ just buy a S1000RR and have 180hp on tap? why did NoRice modify his XB? rather then getting a 1000cc i4 bike? So power hangs the front wheel at 1000ft? when was the last time you raced a "powerful" bike that hangs the front wheel at 1000ft? or do you just know this from what hear and see at the sidelines while the real racers race. Not everyone has an endless budget to have 300hp bikes that hang the front wheel at the 1000ft mark, instead we have to learn how to get the best out of what we have to be competitive. (Message edited by deanh8 on December 04, 2011) | ||
| Deanh8 |
I posted on the GSXR board.. lets see if i get any bites. I'll post the results and videos here (Message edited by deanh8 on December 05, 2011) | ||
| Guell |
some people your not going to be able to please. i for one enjoyed watching your vids. makes me contemplate putting off the 1050 kit and doing a xb12 engine with the 9 pistons. | ||
| Nillaice |
Deanh8, i think it's great that you have done all the work to make your bike perform as well as it does. you and your street racing should be making us buellers proud that you on your buell are not just getting walked all over all day by all the IL4's. i have my own ideas of 'fast' and 'quick' as do others who have posted in this thread. but i won't berate you if you want to 'run what you brung' (is that how they say it?) i wish you the best of luck with your street racing. may the cops never ticket you, and may you and your ride come home in one piece every night i wish i still lived in cali so i could see your bike in action and in person. i guess i will have to wait for you to post up some compression #'s, dyno sheets, and/or drag strip slips and i think that arguing over the internet is too much like a cake eating contest. | ||
| Fast1075 |
I was discussing motorcycle engines, not car engines and motorcycle racing, not car racing. I was answering a concern about NHRA that came up regarding 1000 foot racing. A SERIOUS Pro Street bike is completely capable of carrying the wheel all the wat through without proper engine management, I saw Kent Stotz lose a race by tripping the ET lights with the rear wheel. My old Top Gas bike would hang the wheel at 1,000 feet if I dodn't have the regressive turned on. Pity I couldn't afford to keep running it. And it was SLOW compared to some of the machinery today. | ||
| Blake |
Dean, >>> There is so much to learn at a drag strip about launching your bike you have no idea. I used to scoff at drag racing, until I actually tried it. You speak truth! Fast1075, You're peeing on the man's thread. | ||
| Tony216 |
I'm more amazed that gixxer.com only had one person respond and they wanted to race at a real race track. Amazing, what happened to that place? | ||
| Deanh8 |
I posted on 3 other local sport bike forums... cant find a 750 to race. I had 2 guys with R6's race, lost to 1 from a 60-135 roll by 3 to 4 bikes, and beat the other one from 25-120. Guy I lost to weighed 120lbs vs my 220lb self. | ||
| Mtnmason |
This is as interesting as Tim tebow's recent performance. Keep it up guys. Btw- no hatin' here, dean. Your doing us all a favor proving the worthiness of a buell. Shame there's no quarter mile track w/ hairpin esses in the middle- then you'd REALLY be whippin some Jap asses!!! | ||
| Deanh8 |
for the record.. tracked the bike today. 10.9 @ 119 with a 1.6 60ft I will post vids soon. | ||
| Littlebuggles |
Nice! I was just looking at your build thread tonight to look again at your sweet paint job, last post you said: "Easily had an 11.4 in her if I could get some practice runs in." Now you've got her running sub 11, that's cool stuff right there! One of these days maybe I'll need to get XB cylinders and XB9 pistons on my M2, that would be a lot of fun. | ||
| Bads1 |
Lets see the time slips. I wanna see a unstretch,lowered and no strut on rear pull in the 10's. We have a resident here on the Badweb that virtually run's close to the same setup and hes running 10.70's but the bike is lowwred.... stretched.... and has a strut. Time slips please???  (Message edited by bads1 on January 01, 2012) | ||
| Deanh8 |
Its stretched, lowered and strapped. | ||
| Deanh8 |
Its not stretched much, but a few inches longer then stock. Every little bit helps. im not home yet, but ill post slips and vids when I get there. I drove it 2.5 hours to the race track, and drove it 2.5 hours back. only one 10 sec, bottom 11's all day though. I put 100 octane in it because I ran low on gas and that is all they have at the track and I lost about 3mph on the top end. Couldnt trap any higher then 116 after that.   (Message edited by deanh8 on January 01, 2012) (Message edited by deanh8 on January 02, 2012) | ||
| Deanh8 |
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| Froggy |
Awesome! | ||
| Deanh8 |
trying to get the video up but its 30 min long and my computer keeps freezing trying to edit it. counted my slips, 12 passes. Really wished I could have backed up another 10 sec pass but the gas was killing the power. Guess its really dialed in on 91 (Message edited by deanh8 on January 02, 2012) | ||
| Deanh8 |
you guys are going to have to live with what I believe was an 11 flat run. I cant get that big file to cooperate with my computer. Cant wait to take this thing road racing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUbi3gJl1qw | ||
| Whitetrashxb |
great numbers, great lookin bike | ||
| Bads1 |
Cool I didn't realize you were strapping it. | ||
| Xb12randy |
They don't force you to have a chain guard huh? That one is a must down here in south FL at PBIR formerly MOROSO No chain guard or no kill switch tether no pass  | ||
| Greg_e |
Is that the stock windscreen or one of the taller versions? You might do slightly better with a taller version. | ||
| Deanh8 |
That's a stock one. No chain guard required I can tuck down pretty good without the air box cover but a larger windscreen would def help. |
