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Darth_buell
| Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 10:04 pm: |
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Getting an '09 12R, the first thing I am gunna do is the HID lights. Had an 06 awhile ago and the lights were horrible. Are these just plug and play other than situating the ballast's. any recommendations of where to get them |
Darth_buell
| Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 10:06 pm: |
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also, I remember a cool LED taillight setup that someone used to sell on here. Blinkers integrated. Help me find this. |
Terrys1980
| Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 08:09 am: |
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Before I dish out the goods, try using the search function and if that don't work searching using google. Not to be a smartass but I have to do this. Try this! And this! |
B00stzx3
| Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 04:51 pm: |
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http://badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/51 7861.html?1306842375 Tons on this!! Makes a helluva difference to. I went with DDM for the ballasts/bulbs ($120 and a lifetime warranty!). Got 2 relay harnesses to hack up from ebay. |
Chief_sitting_buell
| Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 09:07 pm: |
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There was a bunch of us here who bought from this site http://www.vvme.com/automotive a few years ago. Relatively cheap and I've had no issues since 2008 |
Chief_sitting_buell
| Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 09:11 pm: |
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here's the BADWEB thread http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/381128.html?1228009028 |
Hogs
| Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 09:13 pm: |
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So you stand behind these units Chief? Thanks Did you get 35 or was it 55 watts. and single or both H.and Low ? |
Terrys1980
| Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 11:28 pm: |
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A few members have gone with ddmtuning.com. I bought my HIDs from motorcyclehidlights.com. Xblights.net is the site for the LED taillights. I would not recommend going with 55w unless you plan on doing extra wiring and relays. The stock wiring can support the 35w. |
Nik
| Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 12:00 pm: |
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I used the ddmtuning kit. My stock wiring could NOT support even the 35w kit. I was blowing fuses like crazy. Relays are easy enough. |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 12:09 pm: |
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quote:My stock wiring could NOT support even the 35w kit. I was blowing fuses like crazy. Relays are easy enough.
There is something wrong with your bike. |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 12:35 pm: |
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Ditto here. No blown fuses with the 35 watt kit on the XB12X. |
Nik
| Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 12:47 pm: |
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I suspect the startup current of the HIDs combined with my running lights was too much on that circuit. Now they're on separate circuits and there's no problems. |
Xb12randy
| Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 01:01 pm: |
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I went with a 35 watt DDM kit for my Bolt. I ran a separate power wire and did the relays just for piece of mind. Took longer trying to tuck ballasts behind the fairing then the wiring did. Can't believe the difference. The stock lights have the big time suck........ I used jeepinbuells write up for the job. Made it a cake walk (Message edited by xb12randy on December 01, 2011) |
Chief_sitting_buell
| Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 08:52 pm: |
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Hogs All I can say is I've had no issues with mine. Considering the price I was skeptical and made sure I kept the original parts in case they turned ot to be junk and I wanted to go back to OEM parts. Yes, I replaced both low and high beams. I made a couple mods though. Relays and fuses for both high and low circuits. Also, I wired the high beam to a toggle I mounted inside the handguard of my Ulysses. The HIDs draw a lot of amps during the first 1-2 seconds ( if I remember correctly). So before I start the bike I set the OEM switch to "High beam" - which powers nothing. When the bike is running I toggle back to low and the headlight comes on. It takes a few seconds to come up to full brightness. By adding the high on a toggle, I can run both lights during the daytime without doing the jumper thing. It also avoids another issue - the 2-3 seconds of inadequate lighting when you toggle down from the high beam to low beam while riding at night if you wire both beams to the OEM handlebar switch. Before I went to the HIDs I added a set of PIAAs on the light bar that Badwebber Lorazepam used to sell here. Since I went to the HIDs I rarely use the PIAA aux lights - really only when I want to make sure I AM seen than to see better. Last part of your question - I think I went with the 55W option. Last point - with a little time and patience you can easily mount both transformers behind the Uly's flyscreen. Mostly just carefully repositioning the stuff thats already there. |
Chief_sitting_buell
| Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 08:56 pm: |
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When I said "transformers" I meant "ballasts" |
Hogs
| Posted on Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 09:29 pm: |
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Thanks Chief.... Appreciate all that info...Good points for sure on that start toggle unit, yeah wd be alot of draw with them ballasts either firing up at the same time as starting , or even all ready being on,If ones ride don`t start right away.... Might have to pick your head there abit on some wiring things..I`ll pm if thats ok with ya down the road.... |
Hogs
| Posted on Friday, December 02, 2011 - 04:09 pm: |
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Before I ordered some HIDs. wonder IF many have used the 55 watt units over the 35 watt units??? also how many used the units for BOTH high and Low beams..Thanks.... Hope this is not Walking on this thread? also if you could supply www. links and names of the ones you all used..... I`m going to get the 4300 units but wonder on all the other info..... |
Froggy
| Posted on Friday, December 02, 2011 - 04:23 pm: |
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I had dual 50w (55 didn't exist yet) DDM Tuning units on my XB without any relays or fancy wiring, no issues. They are on my CR now, no issues. |
Terrys1980
| Posted on Friday, December 02, 2011 - 04:45 pm: |
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35W HID puts out 200% more light than standard 55W halogen bulbs. 55W HID is only about 30% brighter than 35W HID. SO is it really worth any risk? |
Froggy
| Posted on Friday, December 02, 2011 - 04:51 pm: |
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Go big or go home! |
Mikef5000
| Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 05:03 pm: |
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I have ddm and the vvme kits. I haven't had issues with either, but for my next bike I'm going ddm again. Seems like a more legit and trustworthy company. In deciding between 35w and 55w, I would ask whether you're going to install a relay or not. No Relay = 35 watt Yes Relay = 55 watt Will you need a relay to run the 55 watt kits? Probably not. But it's a very good idea. I've seen melted connectors from those that went without. My vote is to go 55 watt with a relay. That's what I did on both my Buells. |
Terrys1980
| Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 05:11 pm: |
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Now they have the regular SPDT and SPST relays with built in timers, which can help extend the life of the ballasts. |
Greg_e
| Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 05:26 pm: |
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Where can I find those relay/delay units? My brother has a couple of kits for his metric bikes and a delay unit would be real nice since he hasn't installed them yet. |
Terrys1980
| Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 05:34 pm: |
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Xenon-Relay-Time-Delay-SPD T-10-second-delay-/400189650259?pt=LH_DefaultDomai n_0&hash=item5d2d297553 |
Mikef5000
| Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 09:25 pm: |
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ARRRGGGG Why the hell didn't they have those before??? I was stuck using a monstrosity of a time delay relay. With this new found information, there is no good reason not to go with one of those time delay relays and a 55 watt HID low beam. (High beam you'll want to leave Halogen for flashing and quick startup purposes) |
Terrys1980
| Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 09:48 pm: |
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I ordered one as soon as I posted the link earlier. |
Greg_e
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 12:10 am: |
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Thanks |
Darth_buell
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 01:01 pm: |
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Interesting. Good info on leaving the High beam halogen for quick startups. How long is the delay, and what is the purpose. Is there an unusually large power draw or something? Learning as I go. |
Greg_e
| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 01:15 pm: |
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The lights often come on with the key, go off during starter cranking, and come back on when the engine starts... Not good for the lamps and ballasts because the lamps don't have time to fully fire up. |
Mikef5000
| Posted on Monday, December 12, 2011 - 11:33 am: |
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What he said ^^^. HID's don't like firing, then shutting off, then firing again, etc. (which is another reason they're not great as a high beam). So putting a delay in allows you to start the bike before the light turns on. Its better for the light, and allows more power for the starter (a win win). I think I have my adjustable timer set to about 20 seconds. It gives me time to hit the starter a couple times if it doesn't fire right up (like in these cold temperatures). |