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Ericz
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone actually found and installed tapered steering neck bearings on their XB that are sealed correctly and fit nicely? I have seen only a few offered online but am not sure that they are advertized correctly. Hmmm?
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Natexlh1000
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think you can seal the timkin style bearings in the same way. That's why you used to have to repack and adjust them over and over.

They did last a long time though.
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Ericz
Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2011 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, I know about the seal situation when going to tapered bearings and would like to buy a tapered bearing kit that is designed well.

Pictures of your experience would be great!!
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My experience with timkin bearings is from my old ironhead's steering neck.
I don't think anyone offers a kit to retrofit them to an XB.
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Sharkguy
Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't speak from personal experience but they are available from all balls for the uly and other xbs as well. A guy over at ADV rider has them installed and likes them. I am going that route soon myself. He claims they are better as far as feel. He also says to not torque them more then 15ft/lbs. I have had them in every beemer I ever owned and they last forever.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am intrigued!
Do you have a link?
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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

not a bearing guy. can someone briefly explain the difference between the bearings being discussed here?
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Buewulf
Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is a link. There are several distributors. I do not have one installed on my bike. Some guys on another Buell forum were singing praises not to long ago about them.}

http://www.allballsracing.com/22-1032.html
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They look like the same bearings as used for the tubers ,but with extra seals added to them!
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Buewulf
Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

briefly explain the difference between the bearings being discussed here

A tapered bearing uses an assembly of conical rollers (set in inner and outer races that are essentially sections of a cone).

A ball bearing in contrast uses spherical balls set inside an inner and outer race that are sections of a cylinder.

A ball bearing is designed to handle loads effectively from one direction for the most part: radially.

The cone geometry means a tapered roller bearing can handle both radial and axial loads. They also "roll" more reliably and thus wear less in general.
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Buewulf
Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They look like the same bearings as used for the tubers ,but with extra seals added to them!

They also have front and rear wheel bearings with some outer
seals as well.

Edit - I take that back. Says wheel bearing and seal kit, but it doesn't list any extra seals in the package. I initially thought it came with dust caps.

(Message edited by Buewulf on October 07, 2011)
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