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Bads1
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ya planning on stopping in Dyna????If ya are let me know when and I'll stop in there.
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What time you want to be there? Im free anytime after 5:00.

Hell, fire that bike up & maybe even go for a little ride.
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do you recommend one Bads1?
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll be there by 6 have to tear down some food from kocktail hour.Takes me about 15 min. then I'm free.See ya then.

Damn it won't let me type hour????
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420at145mph
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i personally think EVERY bike should come stock with a 24way adjustable one
just cuz ive ridden a few bikes with em
feels like a solid slab of metal sliding along the road and when i climb back on my bike it feels all squirley in the back end
do a funny little dance n shake ur n thats the best way to describe how it feels getting back on a bike without one after just ridden one with one
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

M1 my old tuber had one and it needed it with me on it.But I'll tell ya I loved the feel of it,I could set that thing up to steer is hard or as light as I wanted and it all depended on where you were riding.I'd have to say that if I had one on my XB it would be awesome.See what people think is twitchy is not the XB the XB demands you ride differently then the tuber persay.The Xb want you to think ahead because you just don't want to go into a corner to hot because it'll want to stand up on you where the tubers or even Dyna's R1 won't do that as bad anyways.The Tubers were much more forgiving.The XB has just taught me to ride differently I can't say better though.
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine used to want to stand up mid-corner while using the front brakes but I swapped tires and learned to use the rear brake mid-turn (or when trying to scrub off that extra bit entering a turn too). I've found it reacts best to using the rear a little when slowing in a straight line and then release the front gradually with the lean angle while dropping in. I guess the way you describe it is about the best I've heard WRT to making you think ahead. Also, when I had the stock 207's on I found that the tendency to stand under braking and the pressure required on the inside bar was reduced quite a lot when hanging off the bike. After the swap to Metzeler Sportec's I have found that those tendencies were almost completely removed even w/o hanging off. I haven't really tried hanging off too much since I put the Metzelers on. It seems to handle just fine w/o going through the trouble of it. I suppose I hang off a bit, just not WAY off like I was doing with the D207's.

I still think that the bike should come stock with something other than the D207's...
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Xb9er
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Clevelandxb9r,
Welcome. I'm down in the Columbus area.

Just because of headshake on a rough surface, I wouldn't go straight to pricing steering dampers. The XB is an extremely stable machine so first do some checking for other problems.

As others have said you definitely need to set the suspension to your riding style and weight. Before doing that, check that the "stem capnut" (top middle of triple tree) is torqued properly (follow procedure in service manual). This is a recent issue for XB's and has solved pulsating front end that happens when braking. I don't have personal experience with this because I haven't had a chance to check mine yet, so you might want to search the posts to find people who have done this.

Mike.
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

See you at 6:00.
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Clevelandxb9r
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 02:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

M1Combat: thanks for the help (estimate 190 lbs with gear BTW), I also want to change out the slightly cupped front (and maybe the squared off rear) before I start any set up. I think I have some basic understanding of suspension set-up on 'normal' bikes, but a good starting point with an XB seems critical based on the radical geometry. I was also waiting to set it up because it needs new rubber (forgot that earlier). About tire pressure, I think it has a major impact on a street bike, I check it (and change it) almost every ride. After 5 years on the Kat I was almost set on 34/32.

Roc: "How long did it continue..."
It was exactly 3 slaps ... left,right,left ... done.

Curve_carver: The XB has not felt as twitchy as I thought it would coming from a steel frame 'sport-touring' bike like the Katana.

Stealth: "My advice: Set up your suspension, ride it for a while, then if you have the money buy a damper." Sounds like the path I am on, thanks for the reassurance.

I did not make it through all the posts and I have to hit the pillow. More later...

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Court
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 08:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A steering damper does for a motorcycle what a paper bag does for an ugly date.
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Outrider
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Would you like paper or plastic, Sir?
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Seanp
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court - So you're saying that the steering damper is to puke into after you've consumed too much alcohol trying to make the bike look better?
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Outrider
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would interpret Court's comments as the steering damper covers up a design flaw in bike's that come equipped with them from the factory.

Must admit that an ugly date may have a charming personality and a brilliant mind, but the fact remains there is a design flaw that is quite evident.

To take it one step further, a little plastic surgery never hurt anyone and just may turn the bagger into a real desirable entity.
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Pilot
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Zachary Disease.
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