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Daves
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Probably jumping the gun here cause it will take me a couple weeks or so to get the results BUT, I just got a big box today with a HSA muffler in it. They sent it to me to do some testing and dyno numbers for it.
Stay tuned, there may be another muffler player in town, complete with 3rd party dyno sheets(yes I am the 3rd party)
So far, well, it looks cool!

Ride to the edge!
Dave
daves@h-dappleton.com
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420at145mph
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

pix pix pix
im starting to hate the backfiring of my D&D
kinda hard to hide from cops doing wheelies with that loud thing
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Johncr250
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can`t wait to check it out Dave.
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

420 thats cause ya need a Drummer.No backfiring on deceleration.
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Daves
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll get some pics tomorrow.

Dave
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Barkandbite
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave:

You talking about these HSA mufflers?

See http://www.hsaexhaust.de/shop/k001u006s001.htm and then click on the 'Buell XB' links on the left hand side.

http://www.hsaexhaust.de/neues/doppelrohrauspuffx.jpg

They also have dyno links up...

Chris
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Daves
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, those are the ones.
If I like what they do I'll be getting some so people don't have to pay the shipping all the way from Germany.

Dave
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Hogs
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey 420 let me know how much ya want for your USED D&D when you decide to part with it I`ll BUy that Sucker..........
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420at145mph
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

doubt i will
even with the back fire its still the meanest sounding bike ive ever heard

edited by 420at145mph on June 21, 2004
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whats the backfire from?
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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420at145mph
Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

bad a/f ratio or thats just how all D&D's are
ive heard both from more than one person
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Jasonblue
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 01:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My D&D very rarely backfires, and I ride the out of it.

Dave, can you get the fender eliminator kit with the double tail light in the above posted site. Trojan used to have it on their site.
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420at145mph
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well thats weird cuz mine backfires EVERY SINGLE TIME i let off the gas
even from just first to second type stuff
and REAL bad when decellerating from med/high speeds
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Charlieboy6649
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Popping upon deceleration due to loss of backpressure... As far as I've been told. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Dave,

There's more pics of the pipe under the dyno sheet on that link. It looks very nice. As good in finish as the Jardine. I only hope they've figured out a descent chin fairing bracket arrangement!
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 06:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jason,
Yes I can, I will be putting together a "bulk" order as soon as I get done testing the pipe.
Can you wait a while?

Dave
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Kaudette
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi Daves - which one did you get? - I had the HSA on my 9R and it worked wonders and now have the "dobble viper" on the 12S and it is very strong as well. Looking forward to your thoughts as compared to the other pipes out there.
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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Backfires on Buells are very often a sign of an exhaust leak. You should check it out.

Henrik
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Captainplanet
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

420, have you tried setting your idle a little higher? If you can set it a bit higher without causing that "xb idle hanging thing" then it will be less likely to backfire upon closing the throttle on decel. When I had the Latus pipe, it did the same thing, and setting the idle a little higher got rid of it.
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the double viper for testing.

Dave
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kaudette,
They did not send any clamps to mount it. Do you use the stock ones?

Dave
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420at145mph
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yes ive tryed and done that
didnt help just caused the hang thing
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Kaudette
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stock clamps work fine. Mine was snug getting it onto the headers but I don't have a work bench and needed to do it on the side stand so in the shop it should be better. The fairing mounts weren't perfect and took a different bolt than the stock ones so be careful of stripping the bolt or the inserts. Also don't tighten the screws on the fairing mount too much or you risk snapping the weld on the mounts and having the bolt spin freewheel in the screw mount. Not sure if that is clear...
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Skully
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jasonblue,

My D&D backfires every time I decelerate. What ECM are you using?

Thanks,
Keith
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Kaudette
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Daves, let me correct myself - I have the Double Power Race - not the "dobble viper" so I'm not sure about the mounts - best bet to get Udo Huls provide guidance on the installation.
Udo Huls [udo@hsaexhaust.de]
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The fuelling of the XB's is set up so that when you close the throttle it still allows some fuel through for a few moments. This is to lessen engine braking and can cause the popping and banging on the overrun.
Some aftermarket pipes are more likely to pop and bang than others I think.

We have been selling the HSA pipes for some time now and have had no major problems. The chin spoiler mounts do not have threaded inserts, so you will have to use nut and bolts to secure it. Build quality isn't up to the same standards as the Sebring/Remus can, but is good for the price.
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Jasonblue
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave,

Yes I can wait a while for that tail section, just let me know. Do you have a price on it?

Skully,

I am running the race ECM and K&N. When I first installed the D&D it did backfire quite a bit. After about a month it seemed to taper off. I have adjusted the idle a few times, that may have helped.

I have had the pipe for about 6 months and every once in a while it will start popping again. It usually stops when I fill up with fresh fuel. Makes me wonder if different gases have something to do with it? But like I said it doesn't happen that often.

Jason
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)




Ride to the edge!
Dave
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So whats the damage Dave for one of them units???
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Alot!
I have to see how they work/perform before we get to that stage.

Dave
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

549,00 EUR = 664.95 USD
That's from the website link above.
It'll have to do at least as good as the D&D at that price.

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420at145mph
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

its fockin HUGE!!!!
bet that thing straight up SCREAMS
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Jbird11
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the same backfire issue with the D&D. I have not done the air box or other upgrade yet. I kind of like the " POPPING" it's not all that bad!!
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420at145mph
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ive done ALL the generic upgrades
the 12 box seemd to quite it down a little but then i put on the race ecm
im thinking of trying torque cones see if that offers improvment in the backfiring OR just hp/tq
im also halfway thru a deal on a pc3
if that dont work out as well as i hope ill end up trying the techlusion box
either way ill make it go away or i wont
no big deal really cuz it still is the baddest soundigng bike ive EVER heard
and as i like to say
its just dirty paper
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R1DynaSquid
Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

its fockin HUGE!!!!
bet that thing straight up SCREAMS


Nah, it just looks big because Dave is holding it & he's a tiny lil fella. You about 5'1" Dave?
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Something like that Dyna

Dave
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interesting camera angle. crazy
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Outrider
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, like hanging a fish from a tree and standing back 10' with your hand up to look like your holding a Whopper. Kinda like RT and his rattlesnake. LOL
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