| Author | Message | ||
     Iman501 |
so i decided one of the mods i'm going to do this winter is install HID's on my 9R http://www.xenonrider.com/products/h3_xenon_hid_ki ts.shtml http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/9521.html i've been looking at these two. I dont think i'm going to do the high beam, probably only the low beam will be HID. the price on the single unit is pretty fair from both American Sport Bike and xenonrider.com. Are any of you guys running either of them on your bikes? What i didnt really find from searching is what kinda length the HID"s last for? besides HID's i plan on installing my frame sliders (once i go and get the parts for it). actually finish bondo'ing my frame, and installing my frame pucks, change my back tire, remove my belt guards, possible powder coat my rims black, and if i get around to it actually wash my bike  | ||
| Froggy |
Xenon rider is overpriced. Get a kit from DDM tuning for a quarter of the price. | ||
| Ourdee |
and if i get around to it actually wash my bike Sicko. I'm planning on riding to work tomorrow. | ||
| Greg_e |
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=128 http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=127 | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I rode for 100 miles today. Mod season is so short here.  | ||
| Gunut75 |
I rode mine to my shop in the rain yesterday morning. I'm getting my new swingarm today, so the end of my season is already here.  Got a nice list 'o' 5hit to do though!  | ||
| Iman501 |
http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DDM-35W-55W-Sing le-Motorcycle-HID-Kit "Our 55w HID Kit is not recommended for smaller fog light housings because they tend to concentrate a large amount of heat in a small area." so do bolts count as "smaller fog light housings"? the 55w sounds good b/c they put out more light than the 35w kit. and if i recall corretly it is the H3 kit i need for the 9R, or correct me if i'm wrong... (Message edited by iman501 on November 22, 2010) | ||
| Terrys1980 |
The 55w do not put out that much more light than the 35w to justify the increase in heat and current draw. Yes the Bolts are H3. | ||
| Terrys1980 |
or the extra wiring! | ||
| Ratfink |
I did 55watt in both dim and bright from ddm on my XB. I also did a harness for each ballast. Have had zero problems. But I do have an extra sitting on the shelf jic. My project for the winter is to get a delay switch so I can stop flashing my lights at start-up. | ||
| Husky |
I did mine with the DEI 611T Timed/Latched Relay. Works great, several places to get it. Google DEI 611T husky | ||
| Iman501 |
i'm liking the DDM tuning lights for their price! thanks froggy! now i know you said that the light output isnt that big of an increase between the 35 and 55 to put up with the extra wires, but seeing as i have all winter to play with the wires (and my dad is an electritian) that doesnt scare me to much. The thing that still has me thinking is the heat output....would that be a problem?... My project for the winter is to get a delay switch so I can stop flashing my lights at start-up. what do you mean ratfink?... why do they flash when you start up your bike? | ||
| Ratfink |
Iman- go with the 55's. I had a 35 and wasn't happy with the output at all. And I have seen no effect from heat on my lenses. With the "flashing" thing, when you turn the key on, your lights turn on. Then when you start the bike, then shut off with the starter then they turn back on. This causes undo wear on your ballasts. So they fail quicker. The delay would keep the light off for extra time until after the bike is started. Firing only once. | ||
| Terrys1980 |
Ratfink what color temp 35w HID kit did you go with? | ||
| Ratfink |
They were 5000k. Wanted to get as close to white as I could. The 55s are 6000. | ||
| Terrys1980 |
If you do not install the delay timer you should always allow the HID to warm up before starting the bike. You can hear the noise the ballast makes as it warms up. I usually listen for the ballast to quiet down before turning the run switch on to give it plenty of warm up time. And also make sure high beam is off while starting. | ||
| Ratfink |
Yeah. I do that as of now. Just getting tired of looking for another thing before starting. The timer will just idiot proof that area of my bike. Lol | ||
| Iman501 |
thanks for all your guy's input its helped a lot! | ||
| Panhead_dan |
OK so Ive been ready to install an hid for a couple of weeks now and am hung up on the startup thing. Up untill reading about a delay device in this thread, I had just about decided on a switch controlling all lighting. Back in the day, all motorcycles had one usually on one of the keyswitch positions. Would someone please enlighten me on a delay device? | ||
| Terrys1980 |
This should help. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/575056.html?1277400308 | ||
| Iman501 |
since posting this i've been thinking in the back of my head about my "stock headlights" my bikes an 03, and i'm the third owner of the bike. I'm unsure if the bike has ever had the headlight recall done to it. is there a way to check if its been done, or will it effect the HID's at all once i install them? | ||
| Greg_e |
Are the lenses a simple clear lens or are they Fresnel lenses (rings in the glass)? I'll make you a bracket if you go with the Hella that I linked or the same ones I'm using. They should fit my bracket and you could use the stock wiring for closer to plug and play. | ||
| Valiant_duke |
A timer delay for the headlights is really nice. I have HID's and a timer that is placed under my seat. I turn the ignition on, which gives power to the timer, which starts to countdown. I have it set to 30 seconds, which allows me to let the fuel pump prime, start the bike, and allow the RPM's to settle. Once the bike is producing power, then the HID's kick on. The time delay allows a couple of things to happen: 1) no "blinking" of the HID's, once they kick they have a constant power source until shut down. 2) Saves the battery, and allows full power to be delivered to the starter for ignition. The bike is running creating electric power, so the initial kick isnt as big of a strain on the electrical system. Both HID's and a delay timer are totally worth the time a money! | ||
| Iman501 |
Are the lenses a simple clear lens or are they Fresnel lenses (rings in the glass)? they have rings | ||
| Greg_e |
Then you have the newer style. | ||
| Iman501 |
good deal! (wow the old style must have really sucked, b/c I don't think my headlights are good at all, and apparently i have the newer style!) | ||
| Iman501 |
and Greg_e, i think i'm going with the DDM tuning lights, they seem to have been good with the people who've been running them, and they are pretty cheap to! But i appreciate your offer for the bracket! | ||
| Greg_e |
Based on what the other guys have said about the regular low and high beam Hella lights, I think you may be disappointed. It will be an upgrade because the HID throws out more lumens per watt than the stock lamp, but the reflectors and lenses still suck so you are wasting a lot of that light. Cost difference is not that much. Just do the other drivers a favor and don't remove the cut off from the low beam, no need to over blind them. I would go for something in the 4300 K to 6000 K range if I was going it, probably more towards the bottom end. Take a look at the maximum lumens for each color and chose the one with the most output in that range. Anything more blue than 6000 K is going to make things look funny and may not work as well on certain signs. | ||
| Iman501 |
Greg_e, you do have a good point of the reflectors lacking in their quality. if i understand right, if i get the hella's that you linked, i'd need to buy two of them correct to do both the high and low beam? and the links that you posted, said that they are 90mm's (which i'm assuming are the same size as the stock ones i have now)? It also says that they come with h9 halogen bulbs. I thought the 9r's used h3 bulbs...? and say if i do go with the hella's you linked, could i then switch out the h9 halogen bulbs with some HID's (or would that even be necessary?) the way i'm looking at it now is i can get the DDM tuning for roughly $55ish once i have them shipped and find a delay switch vs. $130 for high and low beam hella's. I suppose i could ask for the Hellas for Christmas if i really wanted to, but $130 is still kinda a steep price. | ||
| Greg_e |
I don't think you would want or need the HID after you put a pair of those Hella on your bike. I guess it depends where you ride at night. Anywhere with streetlights will be fine with just about anything. Out in the country with no lights and I can tell you the old style after 7 years are just worthless, might as well strap a flashlight to the machine. I haven't used the HID in a stock fixture so I can't say, but having used other similar micro DE lights from Hella I can say that any of those series should really blast down the road. I the thread about my upgrade there are two people with the single beam hella and they are both extremely pleased. Wish I had mine done so I could offer a comparison opinion between the oldest style and the newest style, but still waiting for contacts and may have to look somewhere else to get them. |
