| Author | Message | ||
     420at145mph |
damnit buggie the guys at lonestar DIDNT tighten my lower fairing bolts on the right side and one fell out now im using regular ol 7/16th bolts in it PLUS they friggin stripped my primary drain plug NOW its a real harley cuz ITS FRIGGIN LEAKING ALL OVER THE GROUND!!! will thread sealer tape work to fix it or should i retap the hole n put a new plug in? | ||
| M1combat |
Ummm, if THEY stripped it... Tell them they owe you the parts AND labor. If it isn't done right this time they owe you the parts and labor AGAIN but you'll have someone else do the work. Did they strip or cross-thread it? If it's just cross threaded the tape may work but even if it does I would still make them replace the primary cover (The hole is in the cover and not the case right???). | ||
| M1combat |
Maybe I'm just petty... The tech at Mayer HD cross threaded one of the T27's that holds my seat on about 1/2 a turn and now it always wants to go in cross... DAMN that pisses me off... | ||
| 420at145mph |
uh its 150 miles away i dunno if its stripped or cross threaded it just keeps spinning n dripping im gonna take it to the auto skills center n drain it n put some thread tape on it n refill it if it keeps drippin n spinning ill just retap the hole n put a new plug in it no the hole is on the bottom of the tranny were the plug goes duh | ||
| 420at145mph |
the guys at lonestar just told me i should probly put a new oversize plug in it does it HAVE to be magnetic? | ||
| M1combat |
In the primary I would very strongly recommend magnetic as there's no filter in there... Is the hole in the primary cover or the actual case though? I could run out and check mine but I'm not the one with the stripped plug. If it just keeps spinning I would go back to the dealer and start tipping bikes over until they fix the problem at NO charge to me IF THEY caused it. I'd even pick bikes back up just to tip them over again the other way. One of my pet peeves is when people don't treat my stuff like I would or better. I always do that with other peoples toys. I hate complacency. Just because it's "just another bike" to them means nothing. It's all about a lack of respect. I once got a heater core replaced for free in my truck when it blew coolant all over my passengers legs two days after I bought it because I threatened to drive it through the front doors of their showroom and mentioned that there probably wasn't enough room to stop before I took out their nice new Camaro SS too. Evidently I must have looked pretty serious as they immediately told me to drive it around to the shop. The thing is, I was VERY nice to them at first until they told me they wouldn't replace it for free. I had JUST paid $1600 for a 36K mile warranty that covered EVERYTHING! As if I had poked a hole in it myself or something... Anyway, if it keeps spinning it's toast and you need an oversize plug. Make sure it's magnetic. Tell them you want to look at the plug before they put it in and they better put it in straight. I only keep asking where the plug is because I have one on the bottom of my swing arm (engine oil) and one on the bottom of my primary case (Primary oil)... OK, I just went and checked... My primary drain bolt is definitely on the primary cover. NOT the transmission. I do NOT have a drain bolt on my transmission. Just FYI, there were a few primary covers on eBay the other day for $25. Maybe just replace it with one of those? | ||
| 420at145mph |
uh its the PLUG IT SELF not the cover its on the bottom of were u put the gear oil im not gonna bug em about it cuz like i said its 150 miles away n not really a big deal ill just make sure i WATCH everything they do the next time hopefully the thread selar tape will work cuz i doubt they got magnetic plugs were ill be replacing it | ||
| Reepicheep |
*shrug* Isn't that a steel bolt in an aluminum cover? What the heck did they do, drop the bolt in a blender? Accidentally mow over it? Try to put it in backwards with a pair of vice grips? Geesh! It would be easy enough to epoxy a good strong small rare earth magnet to whatever bolt you could put in there. | ||
| Jasonxb12s |
I went to change my primary fluid and found that my three inspection cover bolts stripped out the case holes very easily...Don't know if it was me or from the 1000 mile service...Nevertheless, I had to give myself a crash course in Helicoils. They work like a champ..I'm just baffled at how easily the case got shredded by the bolts and not the other way around. | ||
| Ingemar |
Some of these guys think if tight is good, then tighter is better. Think that way 3 or 4 times and the thread comes out like fur. | ||
| M1combat |
"its the PLUG IT SELF not the cover" You're telling me they stripped the threads off of the drain bolt and not the threads that the drain bolt is screwed into??? WTF did they use a freakin grinder to grind them off when they had the drain bolt removed? | ||
| 420at145mph |
ya u were right it was actually the cover that had the threads stripped tryd sealer tape n didnt work so i went to napa n bought a new over sized self tapping magnetic plug ill find out if it worked as soon as i get downtown if its leakin it didnt work seems to have worked tho any ideas why my damn primary fluid looked like caramel AGAIN i mean cmon they just changed it yesterday n already its got water in it | ||
| Jasonxb12s |
If you can make it work for the time being, ask them to fetch you a new primary cover under warranty ($230 part)...and pick it up in a few weeks. The problem with my foul-up is that I changed the fluid, and recognized and/or added to the stripping...Eventhough I fixed my problem, I am still waiting for my primary to vomit somewhere way down the road every time I ride. Why God? WHYYYYYY?!! | ||
| Contrarian |
Wow, does that suck! How many uninformed &/or inattentive 'professionals' have we read about on this board?! At +/- $70/hr shop rate, there's NO excuse for ham-fisted nonsense like this. A service dept. should demonstrate greater competency than the local Quickie-Lube. Pardon the rant, that's been cooking for awhile. Have faith in your ability, buy the book, & wrench your own stuff. If you're informed & attentive, you're guaranteed to do a better job than an indifferent professional, including fixing the mess these cretins stuck you with. | ||
| Hootowl |
Amen. | ||
| P0p0k0pf |
This kind of issue has and will always lead to one large conclusion. Dealer technicians are fully trained, they KNOW how to complete the job properly, and they have the proper tools. NONE of this is worth a damn because the technicians are working at a paid job. These are not their personal bikes, and they don't have the passion towards your bike that is required to hold their attention long enough to finish the job right. Only YOU have this necessary skill. Learning how to fix your own bike really is a win/win situation. You learn something useful, and the work is done right. BTW- this is to owners of any vehicle out there subject to the occasional repair. | ||
| Koz5150 |
For $20 I bought a service manual. I take my bike to the only mechanic I trust... ME! | ||
| Downundabueller |
$20 for a service manual? !! I paid close to $130- Australian for mine. | ||
| Koz5150 |
Ebay is a beautiful thing... | ||
| 420at145mph |
but the when i •••• it up who can be blamed but me no thnx id rather give someone whos SUPPOSED to know wtf there doing some dirty paper to do it for me | ||
| Oneway |
for me its a matter of time not a lack of ability if i have to take time to wrench i dont have time to ride, im having a hard enough time getting the pan back together, i wouldnt mind paying the price for a "professional" if i could just find one | ||
| M1combat |
Therein lies the problem Oneway... Go find one. So far mine has ONLY cross threaded one bolt on my seat and the rest has been flawless. I'm happy so far but I WILL let the service manager know next time I take it in just to be certain he doesn't cross thread something else. | ||
| 420at145mph |
heh ya next time im up north in the great nation of canada ill be right there hoverin over the techs shoulder n not sleeping in the service department I messed up one of the screws in my seat and now CANNOT GET IT OFF no matter how i try how the hell to u fix those screws that just keep spinning but not loosening | ||
| M1combat |
First of all - Get a flippin' torque wrench and use it. Working on a bike is like working on a Plane. You don't get to make very large or numerous mistakes or they kill you. The torque of the calipers, axles, pinch bolts, triple clamps, steering head and isolators are VERY important to have right. Of course, with the way the engine/rear suspension/swingarm are designed on a Buell it's also very important for everything that mounts the engine to be correct. That pretty much means that everything that can be adjusted without taking the engine cases apart except for the damn blinkers needs the proper torque. The proper torque isn't about making sure that it's tight enough... It's about that AND making sure that the metal is stressed properly and NOT too much. To answer your question... Use an easy out. | ||
| Jasonxb12s |
I use a torque wrench but I can't prove that I'm not a complete retard...Same goes with the dealerships.. No poo on my shirt either | ||
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