| Author | Message | ||
     Loud_and_low |
Can someone go over the steps involved in switching an exhaust can to a jardine? Specifically, the exhaust valve and what to do with it. Thanks!! | ||
| Andymnelson |
If you have ECMSpy, remove the actuator and cable alltogether, and disable the valve in ECMSpy. If you do not, then simply remove the cable- the actuator will still move and the ECM will think the valve is functional. | ||
| Nightripper |
what year and model xb | ||
| Andymnelson |
Hhhmmm yeah, good question. If it's for your XB9SX listed in your profile, you do not have a valve. Only the 12 motor uses the valve. | ||
| Froggy |
Don't remove the cable, just tuck it out of the way in case you ever want to go back to stock. | ||
| Odie |
What are you doing with your stock muffler? | ||
| Greg_e |
I'm waiting for a couple of other people's comments... I have a feeling I know what they will say. | ||
| Froggy |
I don't want to be a broken record, hence I didn't post it  | ||
| Greg_e |
Well I was thinking of someone else who had one blow up while riding. I'm pretty sure he would agree with this sequence: #1 open box and inspect pieces. #2 read directions #3 put all pieces in the trash before it blows up on you. #4 buy something else. | ||
| Loud_and_low |
2008 xb12r It is not mine, belongs to a friend, whom I MAY help install a Jardine can. So , should I leave the cable attached, tucked neatly away in the airbox, and allow it it attempt to function? Or should we tuck it away and disable it with ECMSPY? Odie, I told him about you buying my stock can, and will mention it to him about selling his. Froggy, be not afraid of sounding like a repeater to the choir of badweb. For those who would balk at you saying it again, please lighten up. Those of us who come here for advice and information, not reassurance and social contact, need to hear things that maybe you consider old news. So, Frog, what's on your mind? | ||
| Froggy |
Do a search on here (you can specify Xboard), and type in something like "Jardine fell apart" "Jardine blew up" or something along those lines. The Jardine, mostly the carbon fiber one, has a nasty habbit of, you guessed it, falling apart. If you keep on top of packing it and don't use the quiet core, you should be fine. I've seen one literally fall apart in a parking lot when the owner started his bike for us. There are some that have had great success with the Jardine, but personally I would never recommend one to anyone, due to the high upkeep and issues. Drummer and Special Ops make nice reworked stock cans. Unfortunately there isn't a terribly large selection of mufflers available anymore. Jardine and D&D are the only two mass produced (not home made) pipes that are commonly available stateside. There are some expensive Euro pipes you can get like the Remus too. | ||
| Sifo |
Soooo... While I've had good luck with my carbon Jardine, with the quite core, that I haven't repacked for 25K miles (I've done everything Froggy warns against  ) they are a fairly cheap set up. I'm curious about the Drummer & Special Ops cans that are reworked stock cans. The stock cans have that nasty habit of rusting quickly. Do the reworked cans have anything done that makes them last longer or is rust still an issue? | ||
| Odie |
Rust is not an issues any longer. At least not to the degree it is on a stock pipe. I use Duplicolor High-Heat Ceramic and it works very well. I have not repainted mine in over 4 years. You may have some rust issues where the mounts touch the muffler over time obviously but it still looks great. Used to be able to get the paint at AutoZone, Advance, O'reilly's, etc. but I can't find it anymore. I get it through AutoBarn.com now. | ||
| Greg_e |
Thanks, I'll try that paint next spring. Did you completely blast it clean or paint over the top of the existing paint? | ||
| Odie |
It depends on what kind of shape the pipe is in to begin with. Newer pipes I usually just sand down after welding with a palm sander and sometimes a wirewheel if needed. I then wash by hand with degreaser and scotchbrite. Rinse well and air dry. DO NOT paint with this paint when the humidity is high. It will not dry completely and stays almost white sometimes. Don't ask me how I know...... Duplicolor DH1602 Black | ||
| Niceguyeddy |
Leave the cable and tuck it away...it will make things easier when you remove the Jardine and replace it with one of Odie's, like I did.  | ||
| Nightripper |
note on some late model xb's the right side chin fairing braket that jardine provides did not fit my 2010 xb12r and it had to be heated and bent about 3/8" at an angle in order for it to fit the front motormount bolt. Jardine denies any fitting problems |
