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Tick
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 01:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

new frame puck no activator what to use in place of
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Tepiddeath
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 07:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what?
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Firebolt32
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You check the blinker fluid?
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Seriously folks - he's asking about the small tube of activator that comes (or should come) with the pucks. You put it on the surface before sticking the puck down to get the best adhesion.

I don't know (or remember) doing mine, but I THINK this is a 3M product. YOU MIGHT be able to contact 3M if it is.

(Tick, you havea a PM - check your inbox)
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Firebolt32
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Your good Slaughter. I had NO CLUE with how that was worded. Still may want to check that blinker fluid though.
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Drfudd
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i don't remember a tube when i put mine on, all it said to do was prepare the surface with rubbing alcohol and peel the sticker and put it on
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's what I'm thinking - it may have been a simple solvent. I just don't have any record of just WHAT it was that was used. I can't recall the smell. If it was just a solvent/cleaner (kinda what I'm thinking) - you can just use a little light wipe of paint thinner, isopropyl alcohol or similar to clean the surface before peel-and-stick.
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Nillaice
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

IIRC it's not activator. just a cleaner/solvent.
i assure you the pucks will still stick if the frame is cleaned with something else.

wouldn't an activator mean that the adhesive is a 2-part epoxy?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check 3M's website- they have a lot of stuff like this that the sell to auto body shops. You might be able to find some in a local professional-type auto parts store (i.e.- NAPA or similar, not Pep Boys, Autozone, etc.).
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is 3M™ Tape Primer 94. I have a tube of it in my hands.

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Graphi cs/Scotchprint/Prod-Info/Catalog/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE 3E02LECIE20S7M3_nid=73BWF2SKV8be2X45PZSQV2gl
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72rs
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just installed a set of pucks (frame sliders) and mine said to clean the area with isopropyl alcohol and let dry for 5min, then it had 2 tubes of the primer ( 1 for each side) that needed to be applied to just the contact area where the puck was to be placed. I know that the primer acctually turned my xb12r's frame/tank a milky greyish color when applied then as it dried it darkened back to almost the factory color ( about 1.5-2 shades lighter), then I applied the pucks.
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I may still have one only needed one of the two for my pucks when I did them. I'll look later today and see if I can find it.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is 3M™ Tape Primer 94. I have a tube of it in my hands.


You probably shouldn't speak so freely Froggy!
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Brightbuell
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy keeps an extra tube next to the bed.
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Tick
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that would be cool if you still have one may be could work something out
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2010 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1. Try detergent like 409/Fantastic.

2. Then a solvent like isopropyl.

3. Stick with conviction.
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Tick
Posted on Monday, August 23, 2010 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well i got the pucks to day no tube of any thing i was hoping the activator would be in there but no if any one has some laying around please let me know so maybe we could work some thing out
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Greg_e
Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry, completely forgot to check on my way out Monday and today. I'll try to remember when I get home tonight.
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Tick
Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks guys i when and put them on with out the stuff used some acetone and a dead blow then i put all my wait on then the next morning looks good i guess i will not know for sure till i lay it down
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Tdiddy
Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used Shoe Goo to restick one on my Uly.
Worked great for 2 years now
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Migs16
Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2010 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just wondering what are frame pucks for??
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2010 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Knock your bike over and you will find out. : )
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Migs16
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ohh its just a frame protector. i just doesnt look like it can do that. but thats cool and they look nice.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



I have used them MANY times, they work great. : )
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Xoptimizedrsx
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All else fails! JB weld it.
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Chrisrogers3
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I were you, I would not put those pucks on until you get the activator.

It bascially softens the powdercoat for a short period of time so that when you stick the puck on, the idea is that the adhesive on the puck and the softened powdercoat creat a stronger bond so that the puck wont peel off in a lowside.

For those of you who remember the early xb's they had an issue with the pucks popping off, this activator was the solution, and it works.
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Chrisrogers3
Posted on Thursday, September 02, 2010 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh and by the way, here are the "ingredients" in the activator which 3M calls 94 Primer

Cyclohexane
Xylene
Ethyl Alcohol
Ethylbenzene
Ethyl Acetate
Acrylic Polymer
Chlorinated Polyethlene
And of course other great stuff that is sure to cause cancer ; )
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