| Author | Message | ||
     Brightbuell |
Im on a new mission to spred the word, if you want your kids to have jobs to not buy from china, anymore. I know our wheels on our buells come from china, and it kills me eric buell allowed that to happen, but i bought the buell so we can still make a change and only buy chines if there are no other options. So from now on i pledge that I will research the products that I buy and if at all possable i wont buy from china anymore for mine and your children. I love my Buell, I know there are many more parts that were made in china. Like the crappy blinker switch that I had replaced under warrenty. I also know many other brands of american products have chines parts so its not possable to not buy chines, but if the whole product is manufactured in china then try to find a simuler product made elsewhere. We need to show American compainys that we are serious. Teach you family and friends this and it will spred like wild fire. Even though Buell and other products have chines parts they still employed Americans. Just do the best you can. We have to start somewhere because Congress wont. Thanks for your time. Keith Bright | ||
| Brumbear |
http://www.stillmadeinusa.com/ just in case you need a little help  | ||
| Brightbuell |
I know I spell chineese wrong some times, that cuz i cant spell and even though I cant spell and im getting ready to have another back surgery so i cant work does not mean I cant spred the word. I love the World Market, so im not concerned with countries that we trade with only China. I want to every one to educate their familys and friends. I buy about 5 chines products a year or more. I am only going to do the best I can. i will find product from America or other countries that we trade with evenly. If we stop buying what we can from China it will add up to Hundreds of millions of items a year and We and our friends will reap the bennifits of more jobs. im only asking you do the best you can. i love my Buell and My Buell employed Americans, but my flash light did not so I will from now on not buy flash lights from china. Simple. Just do the best you can. | ||
| Brightbuell |
Wow thanks great website. | ||
| Mpolans |
It's a shame that China is more of a capitalistic country than the U.S. these days. (Message edited by mpolans on August 06, 2010) | ||
| Brightbuell |
Yes it is, and we can get back there if we do the bast we can to stop buying their products. Just do the best you can. It took 8 to 9 years to get here, we can get back to prosperity if we start investing in our selves. Buy American and buy from our friends that have equal trade with us. Educate your familys. Write your congress to fix a bill to stop this unequal trade with China. Repulicans and Democrats need to do this. So this is not a political plea, this is an individual plea to unite help our selves. We cant wait for someone to fix it for us. | ||
| Murf2 |
Have you checked your computer? Murf2 | ||
| Brightbuell |
I just said i have bought many things from China and im trying to get people to work with me to change, but since people dont get what im saying. Murf can you read? I said i have been buying everything just like everyone else. Im was trying to go forward not backward. I did not buy my computer today. I am starting today. I probley have 50 things in my house made in China. as I replace thing that break or as I buy new things, I will research before I buy. If we all do this and teach or family and friends we can make a hugh diff in a short time. Forget about everything but what you can do. Its simple. Plus the quality or chinese stuff is crap, so its not like your going to sacrafise that much. I have made my point this is not an argument. Ether you care about your familys future or you dont. I cant make you care. If you do step up. | ||
| Im_joedirt |
It will be impossible! And watch out for the equipment they use with your surgery..... (Message edited by Im_joedirt on August 06, 2010) | ||
| Ourdee |
http://www.findusmade.com/Mall/Apparel_Men.htm http://allusaclothing.com/ And this link for those that think Made In The USA always means that: http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/sweatshops /saipan/reuters032800.html | ||
| Murf2 |
Yes I can read but only Chinese. Vely sowry. Murf2 | ||
| Brightbuell |
Ok, lets get back to dont buy chinese. Its much simpler. It has a focus and you guys can handle it. One thing at a time. Dont Buy Chinese If You Can. Im only asking you do the best you can. Educate your family and your self. Buy from america or Countries with fair trade agreements. Thanks Guys for your time., Enjoy your Buell. | ||
| Brightbuell |
Ok, one more time, I dont expect you to be able to resist buying your little girl that chinese doll made with lead paint but im only asking that you try!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do it for your kids, WTF are you people thinkin that you cant even research the shit you buy so it does not hurt you, your livelyhood, or your kids. How many other countries are there? Buy from one of them that we trade fairly with. I can repete the same shit ten more ways untill you get what im saying. If you are stupid keep buying that shit for your family. The rest of you please give it a shot, and educate your family. Thanks for your time  | ||
| Obiewan |
We wake up in the morning and shave with a razor from China, make coffee in a coffee maker from Hong-Kong, brush our teeth with a tooth brush from Taiwan, check our email with a computer made in Thailand , get in a car made in Japan, and look for a job in America. Something has to change my friends. I ride and American made Buell!!!!!!!! That's a start I guess. | ||
| Fast1075 |
Logic in that I see Obiewan. | ||
| Fahren |
Repeat it he must for those that do not Brightbuell. Topic for quick board this is. (Message edited by fahren on August 07, 2010) | ||
| Murf2 |
Why do you dislike the Chinese people? Don't they have a right to prosper just the same as we do? Americans like cheap prices but don't want to work for wages that produce said low prices. I think I see the problem. Murf2 | ||
| Terrys1980 |
Yes the wheels are made in China but by one of the best rim manufacturers in the business, Enkei! | ||
| Johnboy777 |
This must be the fighting windmills thread! One hundred years ago the British were saying; "don't buy goods from the States" Fifty years ago Japanese goods had a negative connotation. Wake up kids! This is a 'world economy' ... whether we like it or not - whether we accept it or not. Civilization is always in flux - always changing - always prospering some and leaving others behind. Darwin had it right; 'Natural Selection' - those that don't adapt, die off. Only this is natural selection on a global scale. The British are not the super power they once were when they were going out colonizing the world - time marches on. We are no longer the manufacturing-based country we all grew up in... we, as a country, have moved on, for better-or-worse. There are other countries coming on line now – all experiencing their own industrial (and cultural) revolution. Like I said - it's a world economy. Deal with it... or get left behind. . | ||
| Mpolans |
Actually, you might have misunderstood. It's sad that the Chinese are more capitalistic, but the answer isn't to spout protectionist rants, the answer is to make better products and to make it easier for people with ideas to start companies and make products. We can encourage this by getting rid of a bunch of unnecessary federal regs. You should see the crap that OSHA and DOT put out. Try reading the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards sometime. While we're at it, get rid of the minimum wage too. We need to get the government out of the business of trying to protect us from ourselves and our own choices. If we can get rid of our own barriers to new companies entering the market, we'll have more new ideas being developed, more competition, and better products that can beat Chinese (and other competitors) at a decent price. | ||
| Spiderman |
WTF are you people thinkin that you cant even research the shit you buy so it does not hurt you, We are being ridiculed by a man who couldn't bother to research spelling and/or grammar...  | ||
| Aptbldr |
Ironic thread to XB owners  Are radical nationalism & capitalism compatible? | ||
| Andymnelson |
...particularly the name of the guy who made our bikes....EriK. So here's my question: are you will to pay $40 for the $15 pack of razors you now use? $100 for the some $30 coffee maker, or $20 for the $5 toothbrush? Stuff is made (and purchased from) overseas because it is cheap to do so. It is a messed up system. But here's 3 thoughts 4 thoughts I have: 1) price. It will cost significantly more to manufacture the same items here. 2) it's not their fault. The Chinese have every right to make and sell products. Props the entrepreneuers there. 3) proper trade agreements would go a long way towards fixing it- IMO, we should only be importing as much as we export to China. 4) quickboard. That is where this belongs. | ||
| Obiewan |
I believe America can compete, don't get me started on the unions. LOL. I'm sure some of you will get pissed at that comment. Be nice!! Go for a ride, take a break under a tree. It will be OK. | ||
| Court |
Your writing is not only tough to read, it's tough to beieve. >>>I know I spell chineese wrong some times You also spelled Erik Buell's name wrong as well as half a dozen other words. It detracts from your message. I think you men well, but folks never get to that point. A couple quick questions . . . . ONE: How do you feel about the fact that Chine OWNS nearly all the debt of the United States. They, as we said in the midwest, have us by the short hairs. We are so deeply indebted to China that they, within, 7 years, will be THE superpower in the world and will be calling the shots on the world's economy. They have been leading the charge to replace the dollar as the currency for international trading. TWO: I appreciate what you are trying to say about jobs. How do you feel about GENERAL MOTORS taking $500,000,000 of funds from the United States Stimulus and Recovery Fund and building a new plant in Mexico? Just curious.
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| Obiewan |
That's what I'm talking about. | ||
| Redbuell_really_gives_you_wings |
>>>ONE: How do you feel about the fact that Chine OWNS nearly all the debt of the United States. They, as we said in the midwest, have us by the short hairs. We are so deeply indebted to China that they, within, 7 years, will be THE superpower in the world and will be calling the shots on the world's economy. Good points! Some say they are already the world superpower due to their incredible increasing economic growth. If you mean superpower as in "war", well, that wont be too far off either. If they went to war, at least they could fund it. Back to the thread topic, good luck in trying not to buy chinese. We too in Australia have the overwhelming tide of chinese products displacing local product due to price, and you cant stop people buying cheaper imports. It is a problem, but one i think we all have to live with and be aware of. | ||
| Mpolans |
ONE Answer: Not as bad as you think. I have some doubts about China holding most of our Treasury Bill debt, but even if so, they'll be much less likely to attack. War makes the likelihood of repayment much less likely. I haven't seen much on the Chinese wanting the Yuan to displace the dollar for international trading; in fact, the Chinese peg the exchange rate of the yuan to the dollar (which artificially devalues the yuan, making their goods cheaper for export...one legit complaint regarding economic unfairness that no one has mentioned). The Euro folks had been a lot more explicit about wanting to replace the dollar and until recently had a been having a lot more success at it, but you don't see anyone using that as a reason not to buy goods from Europe. As far as China becoming a military superpower, they've got a big army, but it's not nearly as well trained and equipped as ours and most importantly, they have no way of projecting that force (no forward bases, no aircraft carriers). Until they figure out the force projection bit, they'll be a regional power at best. TWO Answer: Pissed. First, I think the stimulus was a politically expedient gross misuse of funds that has only temporarily postponed our problems for future generations to deal with. That said, if the money was going to be given away, it shouldn't have been given in the hasty, thoughtless manner in which it was disbursed. Ultimately, it would probably be more productive to consider why production is moving overseas. I submit that over-regulation and inflated production costs are causing a lot of it (a good part of which is labor.) Sorry, it sucks that there are people in the is world who are willing to work for less than Americans, but it's now a global economy and that's the way it is. If America is compete, our labor rates will have to (at least temporarily) come down...but also, eventually theirs will have to come up. I know a lot of the news in the U.S. is very U.S.-centric, but you might have read within the last few months of some protests at a Chinese manufacturing plant leading to 25% increase (and then a second increase) in salary. ONE: How do you feel about the fact that Chine OWNS nearly all the debt of the United States. They, as we said in the midwest, have us by the short hairs. We are so deeply indebted to China that they, within, 7 years, will be THE superpower in the world and will be calling the shots on the world's economy. They have been leading the charge to replace the dollar as the currency for international trading. TWO: I appreciate what you are trying to say about jobs. How do you feel about GENERAL MOTORS taking $500,000,000 of funds from the United States Stimulus and Recovery Fund and building a new plant in Mexico?} (Message edited by mpolans on August 07, 2010) | ||
| Court |
>>>> that has only temporarily postponed our problems for future generations to deal with. I agree. I think you are going to see some REALLY tough times in 2011. We are personally pulling claws in, rearranging investments, investment plans, purchases and careers. Interesting times. MADE IN THE USA will be important again when quality once again (remember why your Dad bought a Ford and not a Japanese car years ago?) once again eclipses price on the consumers hierarchy of values. As long as "cheap" is a trump card and American firms are unwilling to innovate and again excel at manufacturing, well . . that $4,000 Tata is going to be in the hunt for the next car. Like celibacy . . . many more folks TALK about "buying American" than actually place any value in it. Have folks got examples of things they've recently bought where they made a "USA or foreign" decision? I confess I am looking (postponed till 2012, see above) at a sports car. All of a sudden, given what Ford is doing, my wife (big surprise) is all of a sudden interested in a Shelby Mustang convertible as an equal to the E-Series Mercedes Cabriolet. | ||
| Fahren |
Ford cars - why not -- they may have started in the US with Henry Ford, but they are a big multi-national, using great ideas from their divisions all over the world to make pretty good cars and trucks. They are no longer all US cars, but I think Ford is a realistic example of US firms being smart in a global way. Ever seen/driven a European Ford? It has only been in recent years that some of their way cool tech has seeped into the US Ford vehicles. And it shows. I don't think we need to feel the US should have a monopoly on good ideas. I think Ford realizes that and pools the best ideas from their global network of resources. |
