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Tucsonxb9s
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HMMMMMMMMMMM....Maybe by dying my black with red it'd come out in a deep burgundy/black ......may have to experiment with this. Capt Planet you're a genious!
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Chainsaw
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You da man. Captain! Good find! I'm gonna start calling you GENERAL planet

If golfballs are made of surlyn, maybe buying blue or black or red golf balls and trying the color on them would be an easier and cheaper way to experiment with color changes?

Heck, the local Putt-Putt has golf balls in all the colors of the rainbow!

You got me thinkin' now, please keep us posted on longevity of the color, and how it holds up in a car wash and such.
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Rokoneer
Posted on Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got a complete set of white bodywork for sale cheap to experiment with. Check the classifieds...

edited by rokoneer on May 25, 2004
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brilliant idea!
GT - JOTDS! EZ
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Steviejay01
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 03:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm in the uk...do you reckon normal fabric dye would work then?
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 04:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Rit" is normal fabric dye Stevie.
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Ingemar
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 04:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Would it be possible to leave certain areas untouched by the dye?

Lets say you want to make white body work red and leave white racing stripes.
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Steviejay01
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 05:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jesus what kinda container did you use to soak the bodywork in??!!

I'd have to use the bath!!.....not gonna do that though wife would go nuts if it went purple!
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Ingemar
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 05:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

been thinking about keeping the water on temperature without taking some out, boiling it and throwing it back; I'd use an old laundry washer heating element and throw that in the water to keep it on temperature.
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Captainplanet
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stevie,

I used a large rubbermaid tote from the hardware store. I did one piece of bodywork at a time.
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Mookie
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hmmm.

Im thinking of dying some golf balls and then taking the power washer to them to find out how well the dye lasts under pressure.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It will fade after time.
The reason you might want to dye a golfball is to mark the range balls.
After being hit, beat up, picked up, repeat...
They fade a little, the ones that look really bad are thown away, the one that look ok get dyed again.
Don't see why you couldn't re-dye your plastic if it faded a little.
Former Golf Course Superintendent
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Light_keeper
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

" I'd use an old laundry washer heating element and throw that in the water to keep it on temperature."

Or maybe a couple of those coils used to warm up a cup of water for tea or instant coffee.

As to selective dyeing. as long as the plastic did not bleed under/thru the masking or thru the plastic it self it might work.

Sandy
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What about using something like rubber cement for your masking? Back in the day when I was racing slot cars (1/24) we had a rubber cement like substance that could be painted on the underside of the body (clear lexan) and then you would spray paint the underside. Once the paint dried you could peel the rubber cement off and then paint that area. It worked great for masking windows and such.

Would 140 degrees be too much for rubber cement?
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Xb9er
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would be worried about that stuff rubbing off onto my leathers in the abdomen and knee areas. Or what happens in the rain? Will you have orange running down over the frame? Maybe you should wax it real well with a tough wax. That might help slow the inevitable fading as well.

You can purchase heaters used to keep water troughs (for livestock) from freezing.

Mike.
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Captainplanet
Posted on Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The dye does not rub off or wash off. It has been absorbed by the plastic. You can scratch it pretty deep before you see white.

edited by captainplanet on May 26, 2004
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Jaredkuper
Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I did dyed the brown carpet of an older car black using that exact same liquid RIT. Worked very very well... for a while. The parts of the carpet that had faded in the sun when it was brown also started to fade the new black. The black ended up a dark purple where the sun had faded it. Not sure if it will do any better on plastic, hope so. Oh well, it still looked better than the faded brown that had been there before.
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Coyote_xb12s
Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Back in the days of tye dye they used wax to keep the areas they wanted to keep from absorbing color. On plastic though, maybe you could tape off the stripes you want first, melt some candle wax and pour it into the area you want to keep from absorbing dye and let it cool off, peel the tape off and soak. Something else you could use to soak the stuff would be one of those tin tubs you keep beer in?? To keep the temperature in the 140 d level you could use a camping stove or propane burner. Most hot tap water runs around 135, depending on the setting of your water heater.
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Geofg
Posted on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The RIT folks have a uv-blocking additive they're pushing as a sun-block. I wonder if it'd help control fading.

RIT Sunguard

Also, there are all sorts of uv-blocking coats/waxes. They should help reduce the fade, too.

-Geof
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Mookie
Posted on Saturday, May 29, 2004 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

can anyone see a downside to this other than having to go from a bright color to a darker in the future? Im considering it at the moment. I want to do orange and then in the future if it faded I would go black.
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