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No_rice
Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am looking in my 07 parts manual and all XB models list the same part #s M0028.1AKA left and M0029.1AKA right.
No difference between any of the models.

you do realize they have separate books for each model correct? so the part numbers in the book would only be for a given model as in firebolt has its own parts book, lightning lightning has its own book, uly has its own book...
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No_rice
Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

now if you actually dont have a 2007 book and have say an 09 book, then all the xb's are in the same book, but broken down either by letter designations for model or on a whole completely different page depending on what it is your looking for...
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Brightbuell
Posted on Monday, July 26, 2010 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an 09 XB book. It was a gift from my girl.
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Andymnelson
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Still have to ask about this mythical 7 year fantasy. WHERE do all these people get this idea?




The idea is not mythical, as it was stated in the early days that they would.

The idea that it is required is indeed mythical.

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Sidepipe79
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have also heard that HD accidentally told them to destroy the tooling during the whole closing thing.

I work for a supplier of HD and they will NOT let us even think about destroying a tool. They have tooling that is over 30 years old rusting in a warehouse just in case. I have a hard time it was accidentally destroyed. }
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Carbon fiber frame rail covvers are a much better product as far as protection and look great Wouldn't the rubber be better as it has some give to it? Just wondering.
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wouldn't the rubber be better as it has some give to it? Just wondering.

Rubber for frame sliders/crash protectors is actually a terrible material to use. What you really need is something that will slide and not dig in, such as hard plastic or vinyl. Rubber will dig in and could end up 'flipping' the bike. The good thing about the Buell pucks though is that they will probably fall off before that point anyway so no problem : )

The full length carbon frame protectors don't have any give' in them but are much more shock resistant than you would think, and if you get decent ones they will be backed by kevlar which is extremely abrasion resistant too.

Carbon covers (not just puck covers) stick to your frame in the same manner as the frame pucks, but have far greater strength and 'adhesion' because they cover a much greater surface area of the frame and reach from the headstock right down to the footrest plates like these:



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No_rice
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i keep seeing mention of them just popping off in a crash, now not that it cant or has never happened, but ive seen alot of crashed buells. pics and through my shop and i have yet to have one be knocked off.

hell ive seen race bikes on more then one occasion that hit the ground WELL over 100mph and ground the puck flat damn near to the frame. even had rumble strips they launched off on there sides.

those pucks still had to be PRIED off the bike.

also they obviously would have to absorb alot more shock then then the whole frame cover that is what a 1/4"thick on its best day?
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Aschem
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey no rice... The parts book has separate pages for each model. The 07 parts book is not model specific it covers all xb models.
Remember I said parts book, not repair manual.
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've only seen one pic of a puck that popped off. Pretty sure it has everything to do with poor installation and not the engineering behind it.

Now, I've heard LOTS of stories about the puck denting the frame.

If someone made a rubber-mounted carbon fiber plate.... THAT would be awesome.

~SM

(Message edited by Swordsman on July 28, 2010)
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No_rice
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2010 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

exactly, parts book

07 firebolt part #99574-07y

07 lightning part #99571-07ya

07 uly part #99575-07y

08 firebolt #99574-08y

08 lightning #99571-08y

08 uly #99575-08ya

09 xb models 99574-09y

got them all sitting right here, but only because this is what i do for a living ; )

and i did mention the seperate pages and model designation in the newer books that are a combined one

now if you actually dont have a 2007 book and have say an 09 book, then all the xb's are in the same book, but broken down either by letter designations for model or on a whole completely different page depending on what it is your looking for...

just incase...


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Trojan
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

those pucks still had to be PRIED off the bike.

also they obviously would have to absorb alot more shock then then the whole frame cover that is what a 1/4"thick on its best day?


My 06 Ulysses pucks were taken off by hand, no tools just pulled off )One was almost hanging off brand new!). Maybe they improved the design or fitting on later models as I believe that 06 was the first year they were fitted. There are plenty of stories over here of pucks coming off in accidents of 30mph or less : (

The carbon fibre may only be 1/4" thick but it has massive impact and abrasion resistance and will protect the frame even in quite a large accident. Shock is tranferred to the much larger surface area of the carbon frame protectors so they cope extremely well with impacts.
However any frame protectors/crash protectors should always be viewed as a low speed crash insurance rather than something that will protect your bike 'no matter what'. I have seen crashes that destroyed complete bikes but left the frame protectors completely untouched so it is sometimes a matter of luck over technology.
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Tpehak
Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2020 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

3D Printed frame puck







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