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All_me
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have heard that the xb12 air box works on the xb9 is it worth it? How much hp-tq do you get? And how much?
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Brucelee
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Makes a nice diff for very little money (say $25-30). Recommend it.

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Lovematt
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In combination with the K&N Air Filter, it is worth the money. The low end stays the same but since the flow is better, the mid range really wakes up.

I run K&Ns on everything I have anyways since the filter can be cleaned and re-oiled provided they are not abused. I have had some for over 8 years and they are still in great shape.
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Leeaw
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just got my Bolt back from getting the ecm and filter installed. I also put the 12 airbox in. Rode it hard for the first time today. It runs so well it is amazing. Once I hit about 5,500 rpm or so, it runs like mad.
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Steviejay01
Posted on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

how are you cleaning your K&N??

What do you use so you dont damage it while you clean it?
Just water and soap solution??
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Freyke
Posted on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

check here...

Cleaning_KN
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Henrik
Posted on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just be careful not to get too carried away when you re-oil the filter, a little will do ya' ... what a mess it made : D

Henrik
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Steviejay01
Posted on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

can you use homemade cleaner?
Do ya have to by the K&N stuff, wont normal car shampoo or stuff like that work?
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Captainplanet
Posted on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some people use simple green to clean them. But you still need the oil. The K and N recharge kit is less than 20 bucks and will clean and re-oil an XB filter probably 6 times.
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Ortegakid
Posted on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

does any one know the part # needed for the 12r airbox?,my dealer is not quite up on buell stuff,thx!
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Lpd22
Posted on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Leeaw how much did that cost you to put the ecm, filter and the 12 airbox in?
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Darthane
Posted on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ortega, use the search function, that's why it's there. The number has been posted many times.
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Oldbueller
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just installed a 12 airbox cover on my otherwise stock 9R. Should the snorkel stay or go? Thanks!
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Buggie
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the snorkel should go
but to clarify the snorkel is the plastic part
in the air passage in the frame not the flexible
velocity stack

I am not trying to be condescending I just noticed in the past some people were confused on which part was the snorkel

rippin' up the prairies

edited by buggie on May 18, 2004
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420at145mph
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ha i love that pic in your profile!!!
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Oldbueller
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks! Actually, I already took the snorkel out. I haven't really noticed any difference in power, just intake noise.
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Buggie
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

with the 12 cover you will notice a much smoother
powerband with wicked throttle response
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Oldbueller
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the comment on my profile pics. Those were taken at a Battletrax hosted by the Harley/Buell Cycle Center where Dave S used to work. Thank you to those guys! My local dealer is one of those who barely tolerates Buells, so I'm glad there's somebody relatively close by when I need something.
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Johnnyxb9
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It think the 12 lid K+N filter snorkel removal are the best bang for the buck.$100.00= smoother/throatier intake, and washable filter. Just my $.02 take it or leave it.
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420at145mph
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i meant buggies
but yours are cool too
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Oldbueller
Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You're right. Buggie's photo is better!
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Leeaw
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 05:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They got me for 2 hours to install both items, do the tps and adjust my primary. I had not choice since I am working too much lately.
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Xb9er
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buggie is right about the noticeably smoother powerband with wicked throttle response. And I agree with JohnnyXB9 100%, that combo is the best bang for the buck for '03 XB's.

Leeaw, that's too bad about having to work too much. They must have spent a lot of time trying to figure out the tps and adjust the primary. The snorkel/filter/airbox job is about a 2 minute job.

I like Buggie's photo too.

Mike.
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420at145mph
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i JUST put the 12 box on and took the snorkel out of my 9R
omg it feels like a diffrent bike AGAIN
just blipin it in first gear popped the front off 6 times comes up MUCH easier
and just plain smoothed out the low end
plus too away MOST not ALL of the backfiring
im hoping the ecm n tps reset im gettin in the next week or so will get rid of even more n make it feel totally diffrent AGAIN
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All_me
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do you have reset the tps when you put the xb12 air box and k@n filter on?
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420at145mph
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ive been told u should every time u make any air/fuel upgrades but i ran mine with k&n filter n a d&d pipe for 500ish miles it was backfiring BAD when id let off the gas the 12box seems to took some of it away
i dont know with the stock pipe on it
but it might run a little lean
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Buggie
Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

over time the ecm will take in all the inputs and adjust the mixture as required it will take
a few miles to do this so be patient

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Opto
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 06:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

tps reset required:

after fitting an ecm to your bike that hasn't been fitted to your bike before, or

at specified maintenance intervals.

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Blake
Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

TPS reset is not required except at 1000 miles to account for slight change in adjustment due to wearing in of throttle mechanism or whenever you install an ECM that is new to your bike, or whenever you fiddle around with the TPS itself.

Other than that, a reset does NOTHING for you.
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Opto
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 03:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hope you're right Blake but the '04 Lightning models FM says to "zero throttle position sensor (TPS)" every 10,000 miles marked with a code "A" for "adjust".
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