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     José_quiñones |
Here's another rider to watch: Miguel Duhamel was faster on his Honda FX bike than he was on his Honda Superbike today. (1:38.133 on his FX bike vs. 1.38.495 SBK) | ||
| Jima4media |
I just got back from Sears Point, and the Black Diamond Brewery, and I have some pictures from the track posted to the following address - http://softmagic.weblogger.com/pictures Jim Armstrong | ||
| José_quiñones |
great shots! hey Jim, is that a quickshifter on that one shot? (XBExhaust jpg} | ||
| Blake |
JQ, How much HP do you figure the CBR600RR FX bike is putting down?  Actually, I think the Honda Superbike is still having birthing pains in setup. Go BBoz and EBoz! It is entirely disappointing and predictable that the HRC team is running away with the FX title. Jerks! | ||
| Blake |
SCOOP this!!! http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/scripts/NewsInsert.asp?insert=9116 Aprilia to enter AMA Superbike! WOOHOOO!!! We now have six non-Japanese V-Twins racing in the AMAPR series. A Duc 999R SB, two Aprilia RSVR SB's, a Duc 749R FX, and two Buell XB9R FX'rs. Yeah JQ, I know the Buell FX racebike displacement is not stock. | ||
| Slowby |
blake, you going to cresson tomorrow? i'll be there tonight to set up. hope to see you and kietk there | ||
| Blake |
Unfortunately no. Good luck! | ||
| José_quiñones |
Don't forget the Triumph Daytona 600's in Supersport. Great to see Aprila join the party with a two bike team, it should help their US sales. Michael Barnes Update: Supersport Qualifying Time on his R6: 1:41.016, 89.808 mph average lap speed, good enough for 12th FX practice time on his XB1350RR: 1:43.655, 87.520 mph average lap speed, good enough for 12th spot. He qualified yesterday at 1:42.193, 88.773 mph, in 8th spot. Miguel Picked it up on his Superbike today, 1:37.632, 92.920 mph, good for 5th. edited by josé_quiñones on May 01, 2004 | ||
| Dyna |
Aprilia is on the verge of bankruptcy yet they can afford to field a 2 bike race team? Wish I was that bankrupt.  | ||
| Blake |
I'm sure they have a good sponsorship and will benefit from the market exposure. | ||
| Elvis |
Supersport Qualifying Time on his R6: 1:41.016, 89.808 mph average lap speed, good enough for 12th He qualified yesterday at 1:42.193, 88.773 mph, in 8th spot. {on the Buell in Formula Xtreme} And Barnes is more than 2.6 seconds slower than other R6s. It's amazing to me that if you put a better rider on the Buell and shaved 2.6 seconds off his time, he would qualify in the top 10 of the 1000 cc Superbikes. Sure, I know this is a larger displacement, specially prepped Buell, but I've been led to believe that the ancient, Buell engine design was so vastly inferior to the amazing water cooled, high revving R1's, GSX-R1000's etc., that the idea that even a specially modified race version could put up such similar times is frankly amazing to me. edited by elvis on May 02, 2004 edited by elvis on May 02, 2004 | ||
| Coyote_xb12s |
Go to USSuperbike.com and click on the live timing link. Both Buells are in the top 10 still and running just over 2 seconds off the fastest time. | ||
| José_quiñones |
Good job, both Buells finished, Barney in 8th, Ciccotto in 11th. Fastest race laps for Michael Barnes FX XB1350RR: 01:41.829, finished 8th SS R6: 01:41.406, finished 12th Elvis, the fastest 600 Supersport lap today was Tommy Hayden with a 01:39.147, that would have been the seventh fastest Superbike lap today. Jake Zemke had the fastest FX race lap at 01:39.444, that would have also been the seventh fastest Superbike lap, eigth if Tommy's 600 time is included. Michael Barnes' fastest FX race lap would have been the 18th fastest Superbike race lap. | ||
| Blake |
The overlap among the lap times for the different classes is always surprising. For the first race out of the box the Buells did exceptionally.  WAY TO GO TEAM Buell!!! | ||
| Coolice |
When is it going to be on the tube so we can see and HEAR the thunder of the Buells? GREAT JOB BUELL!!!! | ||
| José_quiñones |
I forgot Superstock The fastest Superstock race lap, 01:37.548 by Damon S Buckmaster on his R1, was faster than Miguel Duhamel's 01:37.860 Superbike Race two lap time. There's rumors that the AMA will merge Superstock and Superbike next year, while they are at it they should borrow the World Superbike race format with Superpole qualifying on Saturday and two Superbike races on Sunday, I think the fans would like that better than the current schedule. | ||
| Jima4media |
Race Report - Buell - did exceptionally well considering it was their first time on the Formula Extreme circuit. They were competing with Honda who had 2 exceptional riders who just won and placed in Superbike the race before, and who had 3 Featherlite transporters, and a huge motorhome supporting the entire racing team. Aprilia - It isn't a Aprilia factory effort that will be racing Superbike, it is a team from Los Angeles named Italica Racing. I have all the details on the American Sport Bike Night website. Jordan Racing - Michael Jordan's team, with Yamaha R1 built by Gemini who used to race the Harley VR-1000, has a lot of money from Michael, a good bike, and a club racer named Montez Williams. I call this effort the "Jamaican Bobsled Team" of motorcycle racing. The only track he knows is Elkhart Lake. Best wishes to him, thought. Racing takes the following ingredients - 1. Passion 2. Money 3. Skill 4. Teamwork If you don't have all of them, you will never been on the box at the end of the race, sipping Champagne or Korbel sparking wine. http://americansportbikenight.com click on the Articles link. Jim | ||
| Blake |
I understand that the FX race is scheduled for next week's two wheeled Tuesday broadcast on SpeedTV. I'm not sure of the time. JQ, How do theorize that Buckmaster oin his Superstock R1 was able to better Miguel's best Sunday Superbike lap? I can only think of two likely reasons that make sense to me. | ||
| José_quiñones |
In a nutshell: it's a much shorter race, so they can push a harder pace without destroying their 17 inch slick tires. Superbikes have to nurse their 16.5 inch slick tires for 11 more laps. Kevin Cameron covers this issue pretty well in the June Cycle World. In addition to the tires, he opines that the wider powerbands of Superstock engines vs. the tuned for peak HP superbike engines help the riders get the most out of the bikes, thus producing the faster lap times. | ||
| Buckinfubba |
way to go barney and mike...and Buell | ||
| José_quiñones |
From ussuperbike.com  May 04, 2004 Buell press release The Hal’s Harley-Davidson/Buell and Kosco Harley-Davidson/Buell racing teams took on full-bore factory competition for the first time this season in the Lockhart Phillips USA Formula Xtreme class at Infineon Raceway. Kosco rider Michael Barnes rode a Buell Firebolt to an eighth-place finish, while Hal’s rider Mike Ciccotto rode a Firebolt to 11th place in the event, part of the third stop on the 2004 AMA Chevrolet Superbike Championship. “These dealer teams jumped right into the deep end of the competition pool and we are really proud of their results,” said Erik Buell, chairman and chief technical officer at Buell Motorcycle Company. “AMA Formula Xtreme represents a very high level of competition in U.S. road racing, and it’s a real test for the Buell Firebolt and for our racers.” Barnes qualified eighth for the Formula Xtreme event at the hilly, 12-turn, 2.52-mile course located in the wine country of Northern California, while Ciccotto qualified 10th. On race day, riding a back-up bike after an ignition problem sidelined his primary racer, Barnes worked his way up to sixth place before dropping back two positions at the finish. Honda factory rider Miguel Duhamel, who has dominated Formula Xtreme so far this season, won the event after a battle with Erion Honda rider Jake Zemke. Both riders set a blistering pace, turning lap times close to those of the top AMA Superbikes. AMA Formula Xtreme for 2004 is a class open to motorcycles with 600cc four-cylinder engines and larger-displacement V-Twin engines, with a great deal of modification permitted. “It is the closest thing to a GP class in the U.S. at the moment,” said Buell. The Hal’s and Kosco teams are working on tuning their Buell Thunderstorm V-Twin engines for maximum horsepower. This is a significant change from the limited-power rules in Formula USA Thunderbike, where both teams have competed previously using the Buell Firebolt racebikes. “I know Hal’s and Kosco learned a lot this weekend and so did we,” said Buell. “We will continue to assist these teams where we can with technical support of their Formula Xtreme efforts, and we look forward to the rest of the AMA season. It is really exciting to watch these dealer teams move up the ranks, starting at amateur level and now moving all the way to the top professional level.” | ||
| Bads1 |
Jose I actually spoke to Jim today, didn't catch his last name but I guess he's the crew manager for the Hal's team.I said to him that they didn't do all that bad first time out this year and he said they thought the same.He went on to say that they should do better at Skip Barber next race.He said that they think they'll do better there and the Buell would be able to use more of its horsepower there.Hmmmmm more power????If your wondering why I was speaking to him and Terry it was for them to take my bike and weld some frame sliders on. | ||
| M1combat |
Welded frame sliders????? Pics please  . | ||
| José_quiñones |
Barber, like Infineon, has very short straights, which benefits the Buells. Mladin had mentioned that he was only using the first three gears on his Superbike there last year. The welded on frame Sliders, there are pictures of those around here somewhere, do a search. It would look just like Barney's bike in the picture above. | ||
| Jima4media |
http://www.racingmotorcycles.com/products.asp?id=17 http://www.racingmotorcycles.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SliderMounts Jim | ||
| Jima4media |
JQ, http://www.powercommander.com/quickshift.shtml For the quick shifter that was pictured on these bikes. Jim | ||
| José_quiñones |
Here's a picture of the slider on the bike, the mount is just welded on and the slider is screwed in.  | ||
| Bads1 |
Jose I don't recall exactly but they said they had to fill the frame/tank with something to keep temps down so they wouldn't get a explosion. | ||
| Anonymous |
Not true, BadS1, what they have to do is to re-coat the inside of the frame with sealant that prevents corrosion, not that stops explosions! This sealant is on all XB frames but gets burnt out by the welding. And the crew chief is not Jim, it's Terry, he would be the one who knows. | ||
| Bads1 |
Hey annon I didn't say Jim was the crew chief he told me he was team manager look back at my post.I know Terry is crew chief I spoke to both and this is what they had said.They had said nothing about recoating the tank/frame at all.But he did tell (Terry) today that I'm looking at pulling it down to the frame to do it and its gonna be about 7 hrs labor and $150 for parts. |
