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Speedy
Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does anyone of the Professor's here knows if an oil pump of an Ully does produce a higher flow of oil than an original one ?
Thanks in advance!
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The 07 XB's have a higher flow scavenging section than earlier XB's. No difference between Uly and other models AFAIK. Here's a scan from the 07 update manual:

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Speedy
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank you very mutch
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Greg_e
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Seems it is a complete retrofit to the early XB, I think I might want to tear my oil pump out and check it, if it comes out I might just go ahead and put in new parts (depending on cost). Anyone done this mod to an 03 9 engine?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Greg- you can't just replace the oil pump internals, you have to replace the whole pump. IIRC the cost is less than $150, so that's not a big deal. I believe somebody actually installed one on a tuber a while back; it should definitely be an easy swap on an XB. Remove two bolts, detach oil line, drop pump, remove gasket. Repeat in reverse to install new pump. If you do it, you should definitely check the condition of your oil pump drive gear (the one on the end of the crankshaft) while you've got the pump removed. The 06-up bronze gear is the preferred replacement.
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Greg_e
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That gear is the part I am worried about.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Drop the pump, get your digital camera, set it on macro mode, point it at the hole under the engine, and snap a pic. Bump the engine over a few degrees (easiest way is to put it on a stand, put it in 5th gear, and slowly turn rear wheel), and snap another pic. Repeat until you've turned the engine at least 360 degrees. Download pics to your computer and enhance as necessary. If any teeth are worn to a sharp edge, plan on replacing it. Check the KV for more info.
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Greg_e
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good suggestion with the camera, I can probably use a digital HD video camera for a live view. Before I get to all that, I should hook up a pressure gauge and check the pressure,but I have a feeling it is a little low and causing some extra lifter noise.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The lube system at these bikes runs at fairly low pressure (<20 PSIG IIRC). Check a shop manual for the recommended range so you know what to expect.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was able to convince myself that my 05 9sx lifters got noticeably quieter after I updated to the new style pinion gear and updated oil pump.
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Greg_e
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm pretty sure mine have gotten louder recently so I'm thinking either oil pump is going or lifter/rockers are going. If I have to tear the side cover off for an oil pump pinion gear, new lifters will be going in at that time.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Could be seasonal. Mine was worst when it is stinking hot.
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Greg_e
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How much oil comes out when you pull the pump? In other words, do I need to drain the tank first or will it be fine?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, June 04, 2010 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All of it, I'm guessing. I always just dropped it when it was time for an oil change anyway.
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