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The4ork
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what do you guys recommend for a pad as a daily driver?

the stock pad barely lasted me 1 year of riding, and i ride all weather/every day.

similar or better performance would be nice
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/9059.html

I like the Lyndall Gold.
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The4ork
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i need an 8 piston pad
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They have those too.
http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/9260.html
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Terrys1980
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lyndall part number 7231
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Rsh
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stock or EBC. The EBC pads cost about 1/2 to 2/3 the cost of stock or Lyndall pads.
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The stock pads left deposits on my rotor, and caused hot spots, didn't like them much at all.
But that's on a 6 piston, not sure if the 8 piston pads are made of the same material.
The EBC pads are a good choice as well.
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Sloppy
Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm very displeased with Lyndalls. Higher rotor wear and "so-so" brake performance. Their metallic pads are "older" technology and, IMO, SINTERED pads have eliminated metallic pad applications.

I would use DP or EBC ORGANIC brakes for street. For track I use SINTERED.

YMMV...
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1324
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've used Lyndalls on my 6-pot setup and I was pleased. I did one track day (novice) and they held up fine for me. YMMV, but these are street pads. Aren't they FG rated? Either way, they are good for the road IMO.

I recently replaced the OE 8-pot pads with EBC HH's because they were also leaving deposits on my rotor. Initial bit appears to be a bit less than the stockers, but the brake feel is more linear and easily modulated. For half the cost of competing pads, you can't go wrong with the EBC HH (non-race) for the street. I am scheduled for a track day on 5/7, so we'll see how they hold up.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lyndall for the street, EBC for the track.
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Yamafreak
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi dum-ass here. Any one have a link for the EBC HH (non-race) for the street. I like the sound of 1/2 price pads!
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1324
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just search the web. You want FA454/4HH. I bought mine locally from Cycle Gear for around $50. If you get their other HH pads for the street, you won't be quite as happy.
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1_mike
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EBC, HH pads.
Easy to get, fair price and work great, wet or dry. Though in the wet, they should be tapped once in a while to keep them somewhat warm.

Have them on all four of my bikes.

Mike
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Andymnelson
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EBC.

I rode a bike with the Lyndahl Golds....hated the feel. Just my opinion tho.

All of the problems with deposits on rotors and the subsequent pulsing can be resolved with 1 simple change: hold the rear brake at a stop light instead of the front. The deposits get "cooked" onto the rotor when the front brake stays clamped in 1 spot.

(Message edited by andymnelson on April 27, 2010)
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1324
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Al of the problems with deposits on rotors and the subsequent pulsing can be resolved with 1 simple change: hold the rear brake at a stop light instead of the front. The deposits get "cooked" onto the rotor when the front brake stays clamped in 1 spot.

Typically, yes. However, my case was more complicated and arrived this way when I bought it. I never hold the front brake at a light. It also frees up a hand to open the visor, etc. Rear brake usage is a good recommendation at a light...
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Andymnelson
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes, "All" is perhaps too strong of a word. ; )
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Holling
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is the EBC part# for a six piston pad? Street use, 04 9R.
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Deltablue
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Front EBC FA 345HH
Rear EBC FA 140HH
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Chessm
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i always hold the front brake at lights with my lyndalls and have never had an issue with pulsing or deposits.

not so with the stock pads.

to me the lyndalls have nice feel and i think they are the best for the street. but i do agree that theyre not the best for the track
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Arcticktm
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you are concerned about wear, conventional wisdom would say that the EBC (or any sintered pad) should far outlast the Lyndall (carbon-kevlar/organic).

I just junked my Lyndall front pads because I did not like the lazy feel and needed too much pressure on the lever.

I just switched to EBC, and great so far, but not even at 100 miles yet.

As you can see, the Lyndall's have a wide range of opinions from "best ever" to "can't stop". I like the brakes to work under light pressure, so the sintered pads are a better match for me, regardless of what type of riding I am doing.

Nearly all bikes come stock with sintered pads of some type these days, due to their wide range of performance and cost.

I still have stock rear pads, but can see some EBC in my future (though I would consider organic for the rear application).

Note that my experience with the Lyndalls is that they give off way more dust than sintered, which makes sense since they wear faster. Lyndalls website claims they give off "no dust" which is total BS.

I think they are trying to sell pads mostly to H-D's and show cruiser guys who are more concerned with appearance.

Lots of folks seem to like the Lyndall fronts though, so maybe it is just personal feel...
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The problem with Lyndalls is they kind of "give up" the last 30% of their life. Requiring far more lever pressure to stop. They are awesome when new however.

I've not experienced that with EBCs.

I'm sticking with EBCs from now on.
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Sloppy
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Note - EBC (and most mfg) make pads that are Organic OR Sintered. I don't believe they make semi-metallics since sintered came on the scene.

Sintered offer INCREDIBLE stopping performance - an SAE article stated that Sintered stopping power was similar to Carbon brakes, but without the high temp extended duration. But, Sintered are "grabby" when cold, so in a panic stop situation it is easy to lock up the brakes.

Organics offer a less aggressive stopping power so offer better cold brake feel. The downside is that when hot they don't stop nearly as well.

In summary, for standard street commuting use Organics. For aggressive canyon or track riding use Sintered. I have two pairs of pads - Organics I use during the winter and Sintered during the summer. Brake pads are SOOO cheap that it's not a big investment to try different types.

You really need to try different brands (EBC, DP, OEM, BRAKING, FERODO, LYN, VESRAH, etc) to see which one you personally like. Kind of a "Breyers vs Dreyers" battle...

+1 for Breyers BTW...
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the feel of the Lyndalls. Light with light pressure, and more progressive with higher pressure (but still strong enough to easily do stoppies if that's what floats your boat).

Besides the deposits and pulsing from the stock pads, I thought they were too "grabby" from the initial squeeze as well.

As someone else said: Personal preference. One man's meat is another man's poison.

But despite the fact the packaging implies they are "racing pads," Lyndalls are better suited for the street. They fade too much after repeated hard applications (such as on the track).
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This morning I headed over to SMHD&Buell, to pick up a set of pads.
Went with the EBC just because I wanted to try 'em out after all that was said in this thread.
Once installed I bedded them in, and headed out for the twisties.
The EBC HH pads are nice, never had to "get used" to 'em, they worked like I expect brakes to work.
Good feel, nice bite, no surprises.
I still like the Lyndalls, don't get me wrong, they work well for me also.
I'll be up in the hills the better part of the weekend and Monday, so I'll be giving them the real test then.
So far so good.
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Koolkim
Posted on Friday, April 30, 2010 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Still have my stock pads on....just about time for the ebc pads.
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Arctic_firebolt
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I only have about 6K miles on my Firebolt. I even took the bike in to HD once for the pulsing brake issue. They did nothing. Said that HD doesn't consider it a safety hazard,,,,

Anyway, I replaced my pads this weekend with
http://www.allbikebrakes.com/

I am trying their A.B.B. brand packaged Double HH Sintered. They are not broken in yet and I'm going real easy on them while I do. Prices are great and I don't hit the track with my bike. Either way they have got to be better than the stock OEM originals which I thought were substandard.
Just a suggestion.
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is also an ABB brand brake line for most Buell models that is inexpensive.
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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hold the rear brake at a stop light instead of the front.
Not a problem I have.
I'll have to find a picture I have of the hot spots.
They are not broken in yet and I'm going real easy on them while I do.
Going easy isn't how you bed the brakes in.
Going fast, hit the brakes, going fast, hit the brakes, repeat...
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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's Keith's, but mine looked just the same.
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46champ
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

eeeya that rotor is really ugly
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