| Author | Message | ||
     Migs16 |
i just picked some up from chevron and the bottle doesnt give any ratio or anything to determine how much to put in. does any one know the ratio or so i just kinda eye ball it?? | ||
| Nillaice |
or dont use it ... are your injectors dirty? did you try 2 fresh tanks of gas (first is the flush) from a popular/busy/trustworthy gas station? or if you feel that you must press on, does the bottle have any other information or guidance? like "treats 12-15 gallons" or "only use on a full tank of gas"? keep in mind that most vehicles gas tanks have upwards of 15 gallon capacity, unlike our beloved motorcycles having less than 5. if no information is found, i'd stick with the 1OZ per gallon thumbrule. it may not seem like enough to do any good, but you don't want to do any harm either, now do you? just don't go dumping 2 bottles of 'NOS energy drink' in there and being surprised by the results | ||
| Fed |
just a guess ...4oz. if the bottle is 20oz. and the average car tank these days has an 18 gal tank should be about right...... | ||
| Teeps |
Better, just use Chevron 91 all the time. All Chevron fuel comes with a dose of Techron; the 91 grade has the largest amount of Techron. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techron http://www.toptiergas.com/ | ||
| Greg_e |
Not all of us can get Chevron fuels. | ||
| Froggy |
I have never seen a Chevron station, ever. Also, I wouldn't waste my money on a pour in cleaner. | ||
| Kalali |
I have been using the Chevron FI cleaner regularly for the past 25 years, cars and bike alike. It is a great product. On the bike I use the 1Oz/gal rule. | ||
| Glitch |
Save your money. I've over 60K on my engine, with absolutely no engine problems (unless you're gonna count a couple of stators), never have I, or anyone I know have injectors clog up. With most all high octane gasoline at the gas pump, there are enough additives already, without having to add more. If you having injector issues, it'd be best to diagnose the problem rather than pour in a treatment for a symptom. If you're not having injector problems and you're doing this as some sort of preemptive maintenance, do so at your own risk, and make sure it's O2 sensor safe (though I can't think of much that isn't now days). This of course is only my 2˘ | ||
| B00stzx3 |
Seafoam? | ||
| Glitch |
Seafoam? Is the most awesome cleaner ever! I was having issues with an old 50. The tank was kind of rusty when we picked it up. Creamed the tank, and replaced the fuel line. Thing would not stay running, the float was sticking. When it would start to bog down, you could tap the bowl once and it'd pick back up. A little Seafoam, and the tapping on the bowl got to be less and less. Later I took the carb off, and it was pretty clean, still did a rebuild though. | ||
| Migs16 |
Really I never thought of it like tghat cheveron has all of those additives! I'll just hold off with the charger for now. Thanks u guys. | ||
| Terrys1980 |
+1 on the Seafoam | ||
| B00stzx3 |
Yeah Glitch. Read another badweb thread about it. Never heard a bad thing about Seafoam, but always mixed/negative/skeptical towards those cleaners you see at Pep Boys in neon green containers with orange bold writing. | ||
| Glitch |
The brighter the bottle, the more wonderful the product! Summer before last, when we couldn't get high octane gas, all that was available was regular. My bike hates regular gas. I used octane boost, the cheapest I could find, and only because I had to. Mostly octane boost is just kerosene anyway, but they sure come in some pretty colored bottles. Really I never thought of it like tghat cheveron has all of those additives! I love the little additives you can pay for at the pump. Press a button, and it adds it while you pump. My son came home and said if he had added two of the products it would have cost him another $5. "That's a quarter of a tank! What a scam! I was looking around as people were adding this and that, and one guy added everything that was available." Marketing 101 Make it pretty with loud colors, and make it readily available. | ||
| Brumbear |
I got burnt valves in my van runs like shyt at idle couldn't get it through inspection 1 can of seafoam blamo run good enough for a few days to get the missfire code off and get it through. That stuff is as close to magic as your gonna get. | ||
| Firebolt32 |
I may get lashed for this but I use(d) a shot glass of methanol once a month. The next door to me builds engines and what not. They use it to "clean the pipes". Obviously too much used too often will ruin the guts... | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
+10 Seafoam. Had the pilot jets on my Concours all gummed up. Wouldn't idle worth a damn. I dosed her with Seafoam and turned up the idle to just keep her running. Little by little the idle creeped up, and as I rode her I turned the idle down more and more. Seafoam cleaned 'em. Didn't have to pull the carbs. | ||
| Sloppy |
Fuel additives are like vitamins. If it works for you, then use them! A nice thing about the "extra" fuel additives is that they help with specific problems. One I run into is water that seeps into the fuel when I fill up the bike after riding in the rain. Yea, we ALL know that we shouldn't have water in the fuel tank, but sometimes it happens when you need to fill up after a deluge with all your gear dripping water... Injectors clog the same as carb jets. As the fuel evaporates, it leaves a residue. And if you take a lot of short trips, I would think that this could lead to injector deposits. Will a "fuel cleaner" take care of a major problem - probably not. But if used as a PREVENTATIVE maintenance step, you may be able to reduce downtime. I can highly recommend Seafoam. I also find that the standard fuel cleaners (Techron, Gumout, etc) do a good job of eliminating residual water. | ||
| Xbmacon |
+1 on the Seafoam great stuff | ||
| Tmall |
I've seen a big increase in MPG after running fuel treatment through two tanks of fuel. I used to get 190kms out of a tank, now I get about 215-220. I never would have thought fuel treatment would do it, but it did. | ||
| Froggy |
If you want a good boost to fuel economy, mix in a little acetone when you fill up. | ||
| B00stzx3 |
Migs, u gonna try it mang? I'mma dump some in my gas tank this weekend. Can I throw some in the swingarm/oil too? | ||
| Porky |
Add about 1/4 can of Techron to a full tank of fuel. I've been using it for years as it works quickly to eliminate gum and deposits. I use SEAFOAM also as a routine maintenance additive. Sam | ||
| Migs16 |
i think il hold off untill my gas lowers and then il just put some depending on how i feel. im guessing its not crazy bad. | ||
| Dmtaft |
If you really want your injectors cleaned properly remove them and send them to RC Engineering. I know they do a good job cause I used to work there and clean injectors myself. They even send you a before/after flow sheet so you know the flow rate improvement from the cleaning. Fuel injectors definitely don't clog up nearly as much as carbs though, that's for sure. My XB can sit for months then fire right back up, versus the carb'd Honda Rebel I have that sits for months and gets all gunked up so easily. | ||
| Hotdog271 |
Seafoam is great stuff. Also Wynn's Powercharge. The other reason these can help is the carbon that builds in the cylinder and on the intake valves. Carbon not only reducing fuel economy, it can cause major detention, and power loss. Once a year a few ounces of either of those two will work. (tektron is pretty good too) But stay away from the cheap crap FI cleaners at Pep Boys or Advanced auto. Cheap isn't good when it comes to FI cleaners. Seafoam or the Wynn's Power charge will run you around $15.00 for a bottle. A bottle should be good for 20 gallons of gas. I really wouldn't recommend the whole bottle... and don't get it on the paint/plastic... | ||
| Kalali |
I forgot to mention that I use the additive as a preventive measure not as a corrective one. I don't personally think the Chevron product will "clean" injectors (contrary to what they might claim)if they are already plugged up. Or at least I've never tested it for that purpose. | ||
| Mmcn49 |
Here’s my $0.02. The feds mandate a minimum amount of cleaning additive in all fuels. When you buy no-name gas that’s what you get, the federal minimum. Top Tier Fuel, mainly sold by the major oil companies like Shell, Texaco, Chevron, Conoco, etc. have their own proprietary cleaners in excess of federal minimums. Injector designs in the 80’s and into the 90’s were more prone to deposits. Ford I believe used a “Pintal” style injector that was very prone to fouling, (I know from personal experience). The only way to keep the injectors operating reasonably for any length of time was to burn name brand fuel and put a bottle of injector cleaner in the tank every 1500 miles, (I buy Techron in 6-packs at Costco). After the Mercury died, I now put it in the Chevy’s every oil change. The name injector cleaner is somewhat misleading. Injector cleaner will not remove deposits from clogged injectors. What it does is minimize formation of these deposits. Injector cleaner is a preventative, not a cure. In the Buell, I only burn Top Tier 91 and I’ve started putting 4oz.of IC in every 3K. | ||
| Xb9lover |
i use lucas tune up in a bottle on my xb9s. its the only fuel injection cleaner that i know of that is proven safe for ALL engines. i use a 1/4 of the bottle per tank. it does a real good job at preventing the injectors from getting plugged up and it increases your fuel economy. | ||
| Xb9lover |
heres something for you guys to ponder and get back with me about. When i bought my 03' xb9s last year the guy said that the dealer told him it would be ok to run 89 octane in it. so he did for a while with an occassional tank of premo. anyways i always have ran 93 sunoco sometimes mixed half and half with 93 and 110 cause i have the race kit. and my fuel light usually comes on around 89 miles. however the other day i was dead broke (college kid) and i decided to mix a little 87 with the 93 that i had in there bout 1.5 gallons to top the tank off for the week. and my light didn't pop on until about 113 miles. averageing about 40 miles to the gallon around town when i checked at fill up. is this wierd or what. i added 1/4 of bottle of lucas to that tank too. lower octan higher gas mileage what?? what should i continue to run? |
